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		<title>By: Via Negativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New life from an old chestnut</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>Via Negativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New life from an old chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One morning this past May, on the second of our two annual point counts for the Bald Eagle Ridge Important Bird Area, I was pleased to run across a couple of these brown, porcupiney things in the middle of our Laurel Ridge Trail. American chestnut husks! We looked around for the tree of origin, but we were in a hurry, and I had to return the next day and find it. It wasn&#8217;t more than fifteen feet off the trail &#8212; a forty-foot-tall tree, to all appearances still healthy, about five inches in diameter at breast height. The ground around it was littered with the tell-tale husks. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One morning this past May, on the second of our two annual point counts for the Bald Eagle Ridge Important Bird Area, I was pleased to run across a couple of these brown, porcupiney things in the middle of our Laurel Ridge Trail. American chestnut husks! We looked around for the tree of origin, but we were in a hurry, and I had to return the next day and find it. It wasn&#8217;t more than fifteen feet off the trail &#8212; a forty-foot-tall tree, to all appearances still healthy, about five inches in diameter at breast height. The ground around it was littered with the tell-tale husks. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Via Negativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holey water</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>Via Negativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holey water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marchand mentions how salamanders can often be found in tree pans that have mostly filled in, but he doesn&#8217;t speculate about our native tortoise species here in the Appalachians, the eastern or Carolina box turtle. Though completely terrestrial, box turtles cannot live far from a permanent water source &#8212; and they spend all their lives within their several-acre territories. We regularly find box turtles on both ridgetops, and their populations there seem healthy: we&#8217;ve found juveniles on Laurel Ridge, and the two times we&#8217;ve run across mating box turtles, it was also on the ridgetops. The first coupling, in fact, was less than a hundred feet from the reservoir in these pictures. And as recently as June 24, during our IBA count, we ran across a turtle within fifty feet of it. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marchand mentions how salamanders can often be found in tree pans that have mostly filled in, but he doesn&#8217;t speculate about our native tortoise species here in the Appalachians, the eastern or Carolina box turtle. Though completely terrestrial, box turtles cannot live far from a permanent water source &#8212; and they spend all their lives within their several-acre territories. We regularly find box turtles on both ridgetops, and their populations there seem healthy: we&#8217;ve found juveniles on Laurel Ridge, and the two times we&#8217;ve run across mating box turtles, it was also on the ridgetops. The first coupling, in fact, was less than a hundred feet from the reservoir in these pictures. And as recently as June 24, during our IBA count, we ran across a turtle within fifty feet of it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1269</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not normal to almost get run over by fawns, but these ones were in a really playful mood, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not normal to almost get run over by fawns, but these ones were in a really playful mood, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glorious. I adore the word &quot;fritillary,&quot; and the thing itself is even prettier. 

Also, those fawns! Good grief. I&#039;m amazed they let you get close enough to photograph them like that. Mighty pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glorious. I adore the word &#8220;fritillary,&#8221; and the thing itself is even prettier. </p>
<p>Also, those fawns! Good grief. I&#8217;m amazed they let you get close enough to photograph them like that. Mighty pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think dinner. The problem is, our hunting seasons are much too short to really change deer behavior in the way that year-round predation by wolves or mountain lions might, and protect vulnerable areas like forest edges, clearings and riverbanks. In the presence of natural predators, deer and elk spend much more time lying up, and certainly don&#039;t openly graze in areas where they would be vulnerable to ambush.

I don&#039;t begrudge the coyotes their take -- roughly equivalent to the number killed by black bears -- but it doesn&#039;t have a significant effect on the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think dinner. The problem is, our hunting seasons are much too short to really change deer behavior in the way that year-round predation by wolves or mountain lions might, and protect vulnerable areas like forest edges, clearings and riverbanks. In the presence of natural predators, deer and elk spend much more time lying up, and certainly don&#8217;t openly graze in areas where they would be vulnerable to ambush.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge the coyotes their take &#8212; roughly equivalent to the number killed by black bears &#8212; but it doesn&#8217;t have a significant effect on the population.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here on Droop Mountain, we feel better about the deer--the cute little fawns are like calves or lambs, and we speculate on how big they&#039;ll be by hunting season. We are outraged by dogs and coyotes that kill them when they&#039;re still too small for us to eat. Try thinking &quot;dinner,&quot; rather than &quot;Bambi,&quot; and you&#039;ll have fewer deer as well as fewer hostile thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here on Droop Mountain, we feel better about the deer&#8211;the cute little fawns are like calves or lambs, and we speculate on how big they&#8217;ll be by hunting season. We are outraged by dogs and coyotes that kill them when they&#8217;re still too small for us to eat. Try thinking &#8220;dinner,&#8221; rather than &#8220;Bambi,&#8221; and you&#8217;ll have fewer deer as well as fewer hostile thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good christ. My spam-blocking program just flagged my own comment - the one above - as spam! I had to go rescuse it from purgatory.

Folks, if you ever leave a comment here and it doesn&#039;t appear in short order, please drop me a line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good christ. My spam-blocking program just flagged my own comment &#8211; the one above &#8211; as spam! I had to go rescuse it from purgatory.</p>
<p>Folks, if you ever leave a comment here and it doesn&#8217;t appear in short order, please drop me a line.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi y&#039;all, thanks for the comments. I had a comment of my own all ready to go yesterday afternoon, in response to the first three, when the power blinked off. So let me try again.

robin andrea - We have to go to some trouble to see golden eagles here, too -- the bastards tend to fly on the far side of the higher ridge. But they migrate so late in the season, sometimes the leaves are already down. Twice my brother has gotten one for the Christmas Bird Count.

dale - I think you&#039;re right about birding being an act of devotion, though many of the birders I know are conventionally religious as well. See, for example, &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/2006/06/birds-evolution-and-god.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Birdchaser&lt;/a&gt;.

striped twistie - You&#039;re right; it seems I am guilt of hyperbole/outdated information in claiming that turtlehead is the &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; food source for Baltimore caterpillars. I&#039;ll make a correction. Thanks for setting me straight!

Keith - They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Actually, I am sick of that cliche, but in this case it might be true. Just take a look at the idotic, Mickey Mouse expression on that fawn&#039;s face. (Have I mentioned I loathe Disney, too?) I&#039;d love to see a remake of &lt;em&gt;Bambi&lt;/em&gt; from the forest&#039;s point of view. The hunter would be the hero, and there&#039;d be sinister music whenever a deer drew near.

Zhoen - It was my pleasure ... sort of.

Beth - Jokes?

Dick - Butterflies are attracted to all sorts of disgusting things. And their typical method of ingesting said things is to throw up on them, so the stomach acids can get to work in breaking them down, then re-ingest the whole mess. I presume this was true of the foot fungus-laced salts that permeated my wet socks.

This, of course, just makes me appreciate butterflies all the more. Kind of like knowing that chipmunks, despite appearing cute as the dickens, are fiercely solitary and hostile little Napoleans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi y&#8217;all, thanks for the comments. I had a comment of my own all ready to go yesterday afternoon, in response to the first three, when the power blinked off. So let me try again.</p>
<p>robin andrea &#8211; We have to go to some trouble to see golden eagles here, too &#8212; the bastards tend to fly on the far side of the higher ridge. But they migrate so late in the season, sometimes the leaves are already down. Twice my brother has gotten one for the Christmas Bird Count.</p>
<p>dale &#8211; I think you&#8217;re right about birding being an act of devotion, though many of the birders I know are conventionally religious as well. See, for example, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/2006/06/birds-evolution-and-god.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a> from <a rel="nofollow" href="http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">the Birdchaser</a>.</p>
<p>striped twistie &#8211; You&#8217;re right; it seems I am guilt of hyperbole/outdated information in claiming that turtlehead is the <em>only</em> food source for Baltimore caterpillars. I&#8217;ll make a correction. Thanks for setting me straight!</p>
<p>Keith &#8211; They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Actually, I am sick of that cliche, but in this case it might be true. Just take a look at the idotic, Mickey Mouse expression on that fawn&#8217;s face. (Have I mentioned I loathe Disney, too?) I&#8217;d love to see a remake of <em>Bambi</em> from the forest&#8217;s point of view. The hunter would be the hero, and there&#8217;d be sinister music whenever a deer drew near.</p>
<p>Zhoen &#8211; It was my pleasure &#8230; sort of.</p>
<p>Beth &#8211; Jokes?</p>
<p>Dick &#8211; Butterflies are attracted to all sorts of disgusting things. And their typical method of ingesting said things is to throw up on them, so the stomach acids can get to work in breaking them down, then re-ingest the whole mess. I presume this was true of the foot fungus-laced salts that permeated my wet socks.</p>
<p>This, of course, just makes me appreciate butterflies all the more. Kind of like knowing that chipmunks, despite appearing cute as the dickens, are fiercely solitary and hostile little Napoleans.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful pictures as ever &amp; a fascinating account. The butterfly love fest on the socks has to be a naturalist&#039;s first. Shouldn&#039;t it be logged with the National Geographic or something..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful pictures as ever &amp; a fascinating account. The butterfly love fest on the socks has to be a naturalist&#8217;s first. Shouldn&#8217;t it be logged with the National Geographic or something..?</p>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/06/for-the-birds/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed all of this, Dave, especially the deer jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed all of this, Dave, especially the deer jokes.</p>
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