Comments on: Who has ears to hear, peep this http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/ How can we live without the unknown before us? —Rene Char Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:48:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2052 Dave Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:28:18 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2052 Teju - I'm glad. qrr - Thanks for the comments. Teju – I’m glad.

qrr – Thanks for the comments.

]]> By: quiet regular reader http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2051 quiet regular reader Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:13:40 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2051 comment, comment, comment, no comment, no comment, no comment, comment, comment, comment comment, comment, comment, no comment, no comment, no comment, comment, comment, comment

]]> By: Teju http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2050 Teju Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:48:58 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2050 I love this, both the parable and the comments. The clothes have no emperor indeed. May it always be so. Thank you. I love this, both the parable and the comments.

The clothes have no emperor indeed. May it always be so.

Thank you.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2049 Dave Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:07:38 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2049 Peter - This is the real thing, even if most of its inhabitants think they are someplace else. That's the problem with poets, really -- they're always mooning about when they should be paying attention to what's at hand. <blockquote>Maybe the man represents self-consciousness in poetry — in writing, even — and the woman is something closer to pure act.</blockquote> We do need both, don't we? Peter – This is the real thing, even if most of its inhabitants think they are someplace else. That’s the problem with poets, really — they’re always mooning about when they should be paying attention to what’s at hand.

Maybe the man represents self-consciousness in poetry — in writing, even — and the woman is something closer to pure act.

We do need both, don’t we?

]]> By: Peter http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2048 Peter Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:54:36 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2048 Is this the kingdom or a mockery of the kingdom we have received from the whoremonger academy, whose tender mercies have bound and gagged poetry? (I'm thinking of a comment you left some time ago in Teju's still-secret garden.) It's hard for me to conceive of you conceiving of poetry as a kingdom. On the other hand, maybe you have described a kingdom. Maybe the man represents self-consciousness in poetry -- in writing, even -- and the woman is something closer to pure act. Is this the kingdom or a mockery of the kingdom we have received from the whoremonger academy, whose tender mercies have bound and gagged poetry? (I’m thinking of a comment you left some time ago in Teju’s still-secret garden.)

It’s hard for me to conceive of you conceiving of poetry as a kingdom. On the other hand, maybe you have described a kingdom. Maybe the man represents self-consciousness in poetry — in writing, even — and the woman is something closer to pure act.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2047 Dave Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:39:55 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2047 Thanks for the comments. I meant to put together a more substantial post for today, but somehow it didn't happen. Larry - Feel free to categorize it however you want. My own pigeonholes are really just suggestions, designed to encourage browsing. Fred - For some reason, I'm thinking she might prefer a spoon. Brett - Should a parable be read any differently than a poem, or a Sufi teaching story? Much as I like the parables in the Bible, I've always held a grudge against the authors of the gospels for offering glosses on a few of them. robin andrea - I like your interpretation a lot. But don't leave out the woman, or the blanket, or the chicken. I'm tempted to suggest that the poet is General Tso, but he was really more of a deconstructionist, fond of slicing and dicing. dale - No worries. It's a very anarchistic sort of kingdom, as I conceive of it. The clothes have no emperor. Thanks for the comments. I meant to put together a more substantial post for today, but somehow it didn’t happen.

Larry – Feel free to categorize it however you want. My own pigeonholes are really just suggestions, designed to encourage browsing.

Fred – For some reason, I’m thinking she might prefer a spoon.

Brett – Should a parable be read any differently than a poem, or a Sufi teaching story? Much as I like the parables in the Bible, I’ve always held a grudge against the authors of the gospels for offering glosses on a few of them.

robin andrea – I like your interpretation a lot. But don’t leave out the woman, or the blanket, or the chicken. I’m tempted to suggest that the poet is General Tso, but he was really more of a deconstructionist, fond of slicing and dicing.

dale – No worries. It’s a very anarchistic sort of kingdom, as I conceive of it. The clothes have no emperor.

]]> By: dale http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2046 dale Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:54:44 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2046 Ouch. Way too true. Don't let the Star Court get on to you, Dave! They're not nice to subversives in that kingdom. Ouch. Way too true. Don’t let the Star Court get on to you, Dave! They’re not nice to subversives in that kingdom.

]]> By: robin andrea http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2045 robin andrea Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:53:39 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2045 This reminded me of the poem you posted a while back by Sharon Olds, Sex Without Love. Here, the poet weeps instead of plunging in to where he knows he will only find emptiness, and not even the joy of acrobatics or the race to the finish line. "like the partner in the bed, and not the truth, which is the single body alone in the universe against its own best time." Each thread in her silken clothes is a poem. He weeps for these treasures he has found. This reminded me of the poem you posted a while back by Sharon Olds, Sex Without Love. Here, the poet weeps instead of plunging in to where he knows he will only find emptiness, and not even the joy of acrobatics or the race to the finish line.
“like the partner
in the bed, and not the truth, which is the
single body alone in the universe
against its own best time.”

Each thread in her silken clothes is a poem. He weeps for these treasures he has found.

]]> By: Brett http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2044 Brett Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:10:44 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2044 Parables are so hard to understand without some explanation. Not even the most faithful disciple can understand. Parables are so hard to understand without some explanation. Not even the most faithful disciple can understand.

]]> By: Fred Garber http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2043 Fred Garber Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:51:27 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/09/21/who-has-ears-to-hear-peep-this/#comment-2043 I think that I've seen that movie. It was in black and white. Made in the 40's I think. They filmed that scene through a keyhole in the closet as I recall. I remember the name now. " My Kingdom for a Whore" If you could, please send me her chopsticks. I will be thinking of this post of yours for a long time. I think that I’ve seen that movie. It was in black and white. Made in the 40′s I think. They filmed that scene through a keyhole in the closet as I recall. I remember the name now. ” My Kingdom for a Whore”

If you could, please send me her chopsticks.

I will be thinking of this post of yours for a long time.

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