Comments on: The Collector http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/ How can we live without the unknown before us? —Rene Char Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:48:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2782 Dave Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:52:18 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2782 Bobby - Cool. That's the kind of comment that really makes me feel like I'm doing my job. If you're unfamiliar with Bartok's music, I recommend starting with The Miraculous Mandarin Suite and the Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celeste a listen. Or the Concerto for Orchestra - that might be the most accessible. Depends on how much of a tolerance for dissonance you have. Patry - Thanks. I'm flattered. Bobby – Cool. That’s the kind of comment that really makes me feel like I’m doing my job. If you’re unfamiliar with Bartok’s music, I recommend starting with The Miraculous Mandarin Suite and the Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celeste a listen. Or the Concerto for Orchestra – that might be the most accessible. Depends on how much of a tolerance for dissonance you have.

Patry – Thanks. I’m flattered.

]]> By: patry http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2781 patry Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:51:13 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2781 I'm with Lori. I'll need to read this again. So dense and beautiful. I’m with Lori. I’ll need to read this again. So dense and beautiful.

]]> By: Bobby http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2780 Bobby Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:06:26 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2780 I should also have mentioned how thrilling a read that was - the way you wrote it. Your posting here is what caused me to go off and read all about the guy. I should also have mentioned how thrilling a read that was – the way you wrote it. Your posting here is what caused me to go off and read all about the guy.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2779 Dave Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:28:28 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2779 Lori - Glad you liked. Fruitcakes?! Hmm, I guess you have an appetite for all kinds of extreme sports. Bobby - Yeah, Bartok was one of the pioneering ethnomusicologists. He traveled all over Eastern Europe, Turkey and into North Africa collecting traditional music, and much of it made its way into his own music. In a way, he was one of the original missionaries for crossover music: he always contended that the richest traditions were those that remained open to all kinds of outside influences. I don't know whether Bartok's collecting and transcription techniques had a direct influence on the American folksong collectors, but it's certainly possible. John and Alan Lomax were the most famous collectors for the Smithsonian, including during the Dust Bowl area, but there were others. The Smithsonian also owns the immense <a href="http://www.folkways.si.edu/index.html" rel="nofollow">Folkways Records catalog</a> now. Lori – Glad you liked.

Fruitcakes?! Hmm, I guess you have an appetite for all kinds of extreme sports.

Bobby – Yeah, Bartok was one of the pioneering ethnomusicologists. He traveled all over Eastern Europe, Turkey and into North Africa collecting traditional music, and much of it made its way into his own music. In a way, he was one of the original missionaries for crossover music: he always contended that the richest traditions were those that remained open to all kinds of outside influences. I don’t know whether Bartok’s collecting and transcription techniques had a direct influence on the American folksong collectors, but it’s certainly possible. John and Alan Lomax were the most famous collectors for the Smithsonian, including during the Dust Bowl area, but there were others. The Smithsonian also owns the immense Folkways Records catalog now.

]]> By: dale http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2778 dale Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:52:23 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2778 (o) (o)

]]> By: Bobby http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2777 Bobby Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:05:47 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2777 What a fascinating story. You can really appreciate his complete emersion in his art - and not just his genre... his own kind of cross over appreciation of folk music. When I read this, (though it's not precisely related) I thought about the days in America of the dustbowl and the depression and the way folk music was collected then - I can't remember exactly where I read about that. I think it must have been the Smithsonian - they went out and collected recordings of songs that those displaced farmers knew - some of them dating back to the Revolution. What a fascinating story. You can really appreciate his complete emersion in his art – and not just his genre… his own kind of cross over appreciation of folk music.

When I read this, (though it’s not precisely related) I thought about the days in America of the dustbowl and the depression and the way folk music was collected then – I can’t remember exactly where I read about that. I think it must have been the Smithsonian – they went out and collected recordings of songs that those displaced farmers knew – some of them dating back to the Revolution.

]]> By: Lori Witzel http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2776 Lori Witzel Sun, 03 Dec 2006 16:26:29 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2776 Guess now I need to read Bond... ;-) Dave, this kicks a**. I need to reread it again a few times, and will do so in between bouts of baking holiday fruitcakes. Oh, and thanks tons for the Smorgasblog shout-out! That tiny story is what came from watching ESPN a bit last weekend. Guess now I need to read Bond…

;-)

Dave, this kicks a**. I need to reread it again a few times, and will do so in between bouts of baking holiday fruitcakes.

Oh, and thanks tons for the Smorgasblog shout-out! That tiny story is what came from watching ESPN a bit last weekend.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2775 Dave Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:30:34 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2775 Thanks, Pica. twitches - Thanks for the reference. I've heard of Bond, maybe read a few things of his in magazines, but that's about it. Thanks, Pica.

twitches – Thanks for the reference. I’ve heard of Bond, maybe read a few things of his in magazines, but that’s about it.

]]> By: twitches http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2774 twitches Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:32:57 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2774 This reminds me of Bruce Bond's The Anteroom of Paradise. He has an entire section of poems based on composers, Bartok included. This reminds me of Bruce Bond’s The Anteroom of Paradise. He has an entire section of poems based on composers, Bartok included.

]]> By: Pica http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/the-collector/#comment-2773 Pica Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:42:06 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2006/12/02/the-collector/#comment-2773 This is exquisite. This is exquisite.

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