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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6168</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the way it works sometimes! Good luck. I have confidence you&#039;ll find the solution.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6167</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mb - Yeah, I thought of that. I was reluctant to say too much there and lose the narrative tension, but you&#039;re right, if I can find something brief enough...

Thanks for the additional feedback. This is one of those ones that will need a rest for a while. I&#039;ll come back to it in a few months and the solution may appear obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mb &#8211; Yeah, I thought of that. I was reluctant to say too much there and lose the narrative tension, but you&#8217;re right, if I can find something brief enough&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the additional feedback. This is one of those ones that will need a rest for a while. I&#8217;ll come back to it in a few months and the solution may appear obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: mb</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6166</link>
		<dc:creator>mb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, this is a challenge, isn&#039;t it. I wonder about adding something very small and simple to the third stanza (rather than your elaboration in the final stanza) â€” either to the first sentence, or between first and second sentences â€” something that would attribute the clear view to the deer activity (&quot;eaten clear&quot; pops into my mind, but you&#039;ll know what&#039;s right.). Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, this is a challenge, isn&#8217;t it. I wonder about adding something very small and simple to the third stanza (rather than your elaboration in the final stanza) â€” either to the first sentence, or between first and second sentences â€” something that would attribute the clear view to the deer activity (&#8220;eaten clear&#8221; pops into my mind, but you&#8217;ll know what&#8217;s right.). Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6165</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Man with Tick on Dick&lt;/em&gt;
Thanks for the belly-laugh!

I suppose one could make a case for the fact that parasites keep us humble, remind us of our place in the ecosystem. If only they did!

*

Folks, the edit to the last stanza is an &lt;em&gt;attempt&lt;/em&gt; to make things a little clearer, in response to MB&#039;s comments. Still a bit too didactic for my tastes, but I&#039;ll keep pondering it. Trying of course to avoid jargon on the one hand and sententiousness on the other: &quot;too little resilience in the system&quot; vs. &quot;the deer have eaten the future.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Man with Tick on Dick</em><br />
Thanks for the belly-laugh!</p>
<p>I suppose one could make a case for the fact that parasites keep us humble, remind us of our place in the ecosystem. If only they did!</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>Folks, the edit to the last stanza is an <em>attempt</em> to make things a little clearer, in response to MB&#8217;s comments. Still a bit too didactic for my tastes, but I&#8217;ll keep pondering it. Trying of course to avoid jargon on the one hand and sententiousness on the other: &#8220;too little resilience in the system&#8221; vs. &#8220;the deer have eaten the future.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6164</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit, this is making me itch!
One holiday in the lower reaches of the Auvergne was ruined by ticks, loads of deer and a long-haired dog.  Another time my brother got one on a predictable part of his anatomy - apparently this used to be a common problem in the days when courting couples took to the woods for privacy.  He was affectionately known as Man with Tick on Dick for a while afterwards.
I loved the forst part of the post, enjoyed the walk, till the tick came along, but ML&#039;s right, impressive you could write a poem about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit, this is making me itch!<br />
One holiday in the lower reaches of the Auvergne was ruined by ticks, loads of deer and a long-haired dog.  Another time my brother got one on a predictable part of his anatomy &#8211; apparently this used to be a common problem in the days when courting couples took to the woods for privacy.  He was affectionately known as Man with Tick on Dick for a while afterwards.<br />
I loved the forst part of the post, enjoyed the walk, till the tick came along, but ML&#8217;s right, impressive you could write a poem about it.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6163</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;d know if it was full. They get really gross, a la Bertie Bott&#039;s Nasty Flavors jelly beans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;d know if it was full. They get really gross, a la Bertie Bott&#8217;s Nasty Flavors jelly beans.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6162</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;doesn&#039;t an adult tick let go when they get full?&lt;/em&gt; 
I guess, but this one didn&#039;t look at all bloated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>doesn&#8217;t an adult tick let go when they get full?</em><br />
I guess, but this one didn&#8217;t look at all bloated.</p>
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		<title>By: David Harmon</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6161</link>
		<dc:creator>David Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if it had bit, it would still be attached. &lt;/i&gt;

Umm, doesn&#039;t an adult tick let go when they get full?  (That is, to crawl off and lay their eggs...)  Best keep an eye out for bull&#039;s-eye rashes (I don&#039;t know how long those take to develop, though.)  You should at least phone your local doctor or hospital and ask if there&#039;s a program to subsidize Lyme tests for indigents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if it had bit, it would still be attached. </i></p>
<p>Umm, doesn&#8217;t an adult tick let go when they get full?  (That is, to crawl off and lay their eggs&#8230;)  Best keep an eye out for bull&#8217;s-eye rashes (I don&#8217;t know how long those take to develop, though.)  You should at least phone your local doctor or hospital and ask if there&#8217;s a program to subsidize Lyme tests for indigents.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6160</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I&#039;ve also been in forests where the open room effect was simply the result of shadeâ€¦&lt;/em&gt;
Which would in fact be nearly the case with one type of eastern forest, the northern black spruce forest. Here in Pennsylvania, 60-80 years or deer overpopulation in some areas have produced deciduous or mixed deciduous-conifer forests with almost no understory, except for a few species unpapatable to deer. That&#039;s highly unnatural. Now I need to find a concise, poetic way of saying that.

Thanks for the feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I&#8217;ve also been in forests where the open room effect was simply the result of shadeâ€¦</em><br />
Which would in fact be nearly the case with one type of eastern forest, the northern black spruce forest. Here in Pennsylvania, 60-80 years or deer overpopulation in some areas have produced deciduous or mixed deciduous-conifer forests with almost no understory, except for a few species unpapatable to deer. That&#8217;s highly unnatural. Now I need to find a concise, poetic way of saying that.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback!</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/10/diagnostic/#comment-6159</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not have a scientist&#039;s knowledge, but perhaps you are correct that I know more than most â€” though the rest of the readers drawn to your blog might not fall into the category of &quot;most&quot; either, I don&#039;t know. I agree, there is challenge to knowing how much background information to provide in a poem.

In this case, it wasn&#039;t clear to me what was causing the lack of understory. I&#039;ve been in woods where it&#039;s obvious from the unnatural shapes of the trees and brush that they&#039;ve been over-browsed. Pruning gone mad, as it were. But I&#039;ve also been in forests where the open room effect was simply the result of shade... a stage in the progression of forest type. But those weren&#039;t eastern forests, with which I&#039;m less familiar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have a scientist&#8217;s knowledge, but perhaps you are correct that I know more than most â€” though the rest of the readers drawn to your blog might not fall into the category of &#8220;most&#8221; either, I don&#8217;t know. I agree, there is challenge to knowing how much background information to provide in a poem.</p>
<p>In this case, it wasn&#8217;t clear to me what was causing the lack of understory. I&#8217;ve been in woods where it&#8217;s obvious from the unnatural shapes of the trees and brush that they&#8217;ve been over-browsed. Pruning gone mad, as it were. But I&#8217;ve also been in forests where the open room effect was simply the result of shade&#8230; a stage in the progression of forest type. But those weren&#8217;t eastern forests, with which I&#8217;m less familiar.</p>
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