Comments on: Fishy http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/ How can we live without the unknown before us? —Rene Char Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:49:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6562 Dave Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:19:05 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6562 Hey, glad you're finding some worthwhile stuff in the archives. I forgot about this one. I almost remember that dream about the catfish. Hey, glad you’re finding some worthwhile stuff in the archives. I forgot about this one. I almost remember that dream about the catfish.

]]> By: zoe http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6561 zoe Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:40:40 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6561 just wanted to express my enjoyment of this post--the photo, the meditations, the comments. thanks! just wanted to express my enjoyment of this post–the photo, the meditations, the comments. thanks!

]]> By: Larry Ayers http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6560 Larry Ayers Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:28:39 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6560 Loved your farmer/catfish fantasy! All in all, an enjoyable rambling essay, Dave. Loved your farmer/catfish fantasy! All in all, an enjoyable rambling essay, Dave.

]]> By: Dr. Omed http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6559 Dr. Omed Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:33:03 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6559 Well...I did read the entire contents of the facsimile of the notebook Darwin kept circa 1837 (was it?) after he returned to England after sailing 'round the world in the Beagle, and was cogitating on the problem--He really sussed out the idea of natural selection while studying at the British Library in London--reading Malthus and all that. But that was back in '92 when I was riding a 4 hammer manic high--I checked out 60 or 70 books on evolutionary biology, physics, and what not from the Denver Public Library and accumulated a 350 dollar library fine. I had this idea for a grand unification theory, you see...those were the days, my friend...but the catfish dream is much more recent. Well…I did read the entire contents of the facsimile of the notebook Darwin kept circa 1837 (was it?) after he returned to England after sailing ’round the world in the Beagle, and was cogitating on the problem–He really sussed out the idea of natural selection while studying at the British Library in London–reading Malthus and all that.

But that was back in ’92 when I was riding a 4 hammer manic high–I checked out 60 or 70 books on evolutionary biology, physics, and what not from the Denver Public Library and accumulated a 350 dollar library fine. I had this idea for a grand unification theory, you see…those were the days, my friend…but the catfish dream is much more recent.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6558 Dave Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:35:03 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6558 Great comment! Both for the dream, and for the quote. It did occur to me about my own dream that a very obvious Freudian interpretation might (for once) make sense. That's less clear for yours, though. It seems like the sort of thing one might dream after prolonged exposure to <em>The Origin of Species</em>. Great comment! Both for the dream, and for the quote.

It did occur to me about my own dream that a very obvious Freudian interpretation might (for once) make sense. That’s less clear for yours, though. It seems like the sort of thing one might dream after prolonged exposure to The Origin of Species.

]]> By: Dr. Omed http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6557 Dr. Omed Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:24:10 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6557 I had a catfish dream: Some companions and I were driving a big old Buick or something like over a low brick causeway across a large muddy lake. Old men in flat bottom boats were running trotlines alongside the causeway. For no particular reason we parked on the causeway and joined in on the harvest. When we pulled the lines up out of the water what we found on the hooks were not fish, but catfish men, sort of catfish golems, whose limbs were still forming as we pulled them unresisting onto the dock. There were old clothes in the trunk of the car which we matched to their frames as best we could--they ranged in size from about two and a half to six and a half feet. Then we would send them toddling or shambling on their way. Plato wrote: "The supreme misery of a tyrant is that he has to be master of others when is he is not master of himself." Republic, Book IX I had a catfish dream:

Some companions and I were driving a big old Buick or something like over a low brick causeway across a large muddy lake. Old men in flat bottom boats were running trotlines alongside the causeway. For no particular reason we parked on the causeway and joined in on the harvest. When we pulled the lines up out of the water what we found on the hooks were not fish, but catfish men, sort of catfish golems, whose limbs were still forming as we pulled them unresisting onto the dock. There were old clothes in the trunk of the car which we matched to their frames as best we could–they ranged in size from about two and a half to six and a half feet. Then we would send them toddling or shambling on their way.

Plato wrote:

“The supreme misery of a tyrant is that he has to be master of others when is he is not master of himself.”

Republic, Book IX

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6556 Dave Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:35:10 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6556 You're too kind. You’re too kind.

]]> By: Tall Girl http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6555 Tall Girl Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:54:49 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6555 The story you're in has a kind of laid-back country pace, lots of layers, and has to be read attentively. Dull? No. The story you’re in has a kind of laid-back country pace, lots of layers, and has to be read attentively. Dull? No.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6554 Dave Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:26:15 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6554 CadyMay - Glad you liked. One of the great things about having a background in poetry is that one feels liberated from the necessity of always making perfect sense. CadyMay – Glad you liked. One of the great things about having a background in poetry is that one feels liberated from the necessity of always making perfect sense.

]]> By: CadyMay http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/fishy/#comment-6553 CadyMay Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:28:13 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/2007/12/07/fishy/#comment-6553 lots of smiling here, so long and thanks for the fish....I was trying to link your typing and seeing yourself in your stories to Clinton seeing himself in everyones face..... its on the tip of my tongue, like your mothers thought, but at least she could partially articulate it, I on the other hand seem brain dead to grasp it...either way, your reflections are never boring! lots of smiling here, so long and thanks for the fish….I was trying to link your typing and seeing yourself in your stories to Clinton seeing himself in everyones face….. its on the tip of my tongue, like your mothers thought, but at least she could partially articulate it, I on the other hand seem brain dead to grasp it…either way, your reflections are never boring!

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