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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2008/06/a-non-plague-of-non-locusts/#comment-8354</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bevson - &quot;Irruptive,&quot; eh? No one would ever guess you&#039;re a birder. :)

They&#039;re certainly not everywhere, even in their historical range. Just because something is incredibly common doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t vulnerable, as the examples of the now-extinct Rocky Mountain locust and passenger pigeon should serve to remind us.

CGP - Glad you found my cicada blogging to be of interest. I was worrying it might seem a tad excessive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bevson &#8211; &#8220;Irruptive,&#8221; eh? No one would ever guess you&#8217;re a birder. :)</p>
<p>They&#8217;re certainly not everywhere, even in their historical range. Just because something is incredibly common doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t vulnerable, as the examples of the now-extinct Rocky Mountain locust and passenger pigeon should serve to remind us.</p>
<p>CGP &#8211; Glad you found my cicada blogging to be of interest. I was worrying it might seem a tad excessive!</p>
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		<title>By: Crafty Green Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crafty Green Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 17 year cicadas have always appealed to me with a certain sense of mystery, great to read more about them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 17 year cicadas have always appealed to me with a certain sense of mystery, great to read more about them!</p>
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		<title>By: bevson</title>
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		<dc:creator>bevson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only seen the irruptive cicadas once, years ago in Princeton, NJ.  We never had them in the midwest where I grew up and I don&#039;t have them on the mountain.  They must be very selective.  We do have a few of the seasonal summer cicadas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only seen the irruptive cicadas once, years ago in Princeton, NJ.  We never had them in the midwest where I grew up and I don&#8217;t have them on the mountain.  They must be very selective.  We do have a few of the seasonal summer cicadas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Susan - Glad you found the post useful. That&#039;s interesting that your black walnuts are cicada-free, too, even at such high levels of cicada population density. And thanks for reminding me to check our own Bradford pear, which stands out in the middle of the field - though I think I&#039;m probably a bit late now! It could use a good pruning, though. (Can you tell I&#039;m a neglectful gardener?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susan &#8211; Glad you found the post useful. That&#8217;s interesting that your black walnuts are cicada-free, too, even at such high levels of cicada population density. And thanks for reminding me to check our own Bradford pear, which stands out in the middle of the field &#8211; though I think I&#8217;m probably a bit late now! It could use a good pruning, though. (Can you tell I&#8217;m a neglectful gardener?)</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Gets Native</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2008/06/a-non-plague-of-non-locusts/#comment-8350</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Gets Native</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great post.  Here in southwestern Ohio, things are dying down (and off, thank goodness!).
Thank you SO MUCH for bringing up the pesticide and native tree issue.  Too many people just grab a bottle of chemical gunk and don&#039;t think about the consequences.
In 2004, we saw zero cicadas here on our property, but this year....well, they reached &quot;biblical&quot; proportions.  None in the black walnuts, but all over our downy hawthorn, our Bradford Pear (which I have been doing voodoo dances around trying to kill it).  Our neighborhood is young, but we are on the edge of it, next to a mature woodland, so LUCKY US.
: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great post.  Here in southwestern Ohio, things are dying down (and off, thank goodness!).<br />
Thank you SO MUCH for bringing up the pesticide and native tree issue.  Too many people just grab a bottle of chemical gunk and don&#8217;t think about the consequences.<br />
In 2004, we saw zero cicadas here on our property, but this year&#8230;.well, they reached &#8220;biblical&#8221; proportions.  None in the black walnuts, but all over our downy hawthorn, our Bradford Pear (which I have been doing voodoo dances around trying to kill it).  Our neighborhood is young, but we are on the edge of it, next to a mature woodland, so LUCKY US.<br />
: )</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Gina Marie&lt;/strong&gt; - Macrospacial differences in brood occurence may be due to happenstance - we&#039;re basically on the border between different broods here - or on broader land use patterns. In areas where trees are few and starlings are many, for example, it may be difficult for enough cicadas to survive to reproduce, leading to local extirpations. Who knows?

Glad you got over your aversion to them!

&lt;strong&gt;Larry&lt;/strong&gt; - Glad you liked the post. Yeah, I guess you must be close to some 13-year broods in Hannibal. We don&#039;t have any here. But in the warmer areas where shorter-cycle Magicicadas are found, the trees grow more quickly, so again, as you say, damage is minimized over time.

&lt;strong&gt;arby&lt;/strong&gt; - Great stories about the chainsaws and the mating! I sure wish you had a blog. Your comment about fruit trees on an earlier post was one of the things that sparked this post.

&lt;strong&gt;Lee&#039;s River&lt;/strong&gt; - Yes, except that they don&#039;t actually stridulate, as Gina&#039;s video demonstrates. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt;, though lacking in other respects, is good on this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Male cicadas have loud noisemakers called &quot;timbals&quot; on the sides of the abdominal base. Their &quot;singing&quot; is not the stridulation (where two structures are rubbed against one another) of many other familiar sound-producing insects like crickets: the timbals are regions of the exoskeleton that are modified to form a complex membrane with thin, membranous portions and thickened &quot;ribs&quot;. Contracting the internal timbal muscles produces a clicking sound as the timbals buckle inwards. As these muscles relax, the timbals return to their original position producing another click. The interior of the male abdomen is substantially hollow to amplify the resonance of the sound. A cicada rapidly vibrates these membranes, and enlarged chambers derived from the tracheae make its body serve as a resonance chamber, greatly amplifying the sound. They modulate their noise by wiggling their abdomens toward and away from the tree that they are on. Additionally, each species has its own distinctive song.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Gina Marie</strong> &#8211; Macrospacial differences in brood occurence may be due to happenstance &#8211; we&#8217;re basically on the border between different broods here &#8211; or on broader land use patterns. In areas where trees are few and starlings are many, for example, it may be difficult for enough cicadas to survive to reproduce, leading to local extirpations. Who knows?</p>
<p>Glad you got over your aversion to them!</p>
<p><strong>Larry</strong> &#8211; Glad you liked the post. Yeah, I guess you must be close to some 13-year broods in Hannibal. We don&#8217;t have any here. But in the warmer areas where shorter-cycle Magicicadas are found, the trees grow more quickly, so again, as you say, damage is minimized over time.</p>
<p><strong>arby</strong> &#8211; Great stories about the chainsaws and the mating! I sure wish you had a blog. Your comment about fruit trees on an earlier post was one of the things that sparked this post.</p>
<p><strong>Lee&#8217;s River</strong> &#8211; Yes, except that they don&#8217;t actually stridulate, as Gina&#8217;s video demonstrates. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article</a>, though lacking in other respects, is good on this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Male cicadas have loud noisemakers called &#8220;timbals&#8221; on the sides of the abdominal base. Their &#8220;singing&#8221; is not the stridulation (where two structures are rubbed against one another) of many other familiar sound-producing insects like crickets: the timbals are regions of the exoskeleton that are modified to form a complex membrane with thin, membranous portions and thickened &#8220;ribs&#8221;. Contracting the internal timbal muscles produces a clicking sound as the timbals buckle inwards. As these muscles relax, the timbals return to their original position producing another click. The interior of the male abdomen is substantially hollow to amplify the resonance of the sound. A cicada rapidly vibrates these membranes, and enlarged chambers derived from the tracheae make its body serve as a resonance chamber, greatly amplifying the sound. They modulate their noise by wiggling their abdomens toward and away from the tree that they are on. Additionally, each species has its own distinctive song.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Lee's River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee's River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they really define &quot;stridulent&quot;, don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they really define &#8220;stridulent&#8221;, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who are interested,  here is a cool video of the cicada mating call: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcvernors/2564231157</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who are interested,  here is a cool video of the cicada mating call: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcvernors/2564231157" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcvernors/2564231157</a></p>
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		<title>By: arby</title>
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		<dc:creator>arby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.M.: They were logging in &quot;my&quot; holler (I rent a house in a 300 acre hollow in central KY) during the cicada bloom. When the loggers started up their chainsaws and skidder in the early morning in the log yard (an empty field), the cicadas came flocking in, looking for those really big fellas, I guess. In the case of your captive cicada, I suspect the one flying in was more interested in breeding than rescue. During the height of the breeding I saw two locked together on the ground, while a huge beetle was consuming the abdomen of one of them. Circle of life...  rb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.M.: They were logging in &#8220;my&#8221; holler (I rent a house in a 300 acre hollow in central KY) during the cicada bloom. When the loggers started up their chainsaws and skidder in the early morning in the log yard (an empty field), the cicadas came flocking in, looking for those really big fellas, I guess. In the case of your captive cicada, I suspect the one flying in was more interested in breeding than rescue. During the height of the breeding I saw two locked together on the ground, while a huge beetle was consuming the abdomen of one of them. Circle of life&#8230;  rb</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Ayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Ayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice cicada post and photos, Dave! I&#039;ve witnessed several cicada eruptions; the insects can cause appalling damage to young trees, but most of them will recover during the 13-or-17-year interregnum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice cicada post and photos, Dave! I&#8217;ve witnessed several cicada eruptions; the insects can cause appalling damage to young trees, but most of them will recover during the 13-or-17-year interregnum.</p>
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