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	<title>Comments on: Things not seen: reading Pattiann Rogers</title>
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		<title>By: gurtrude</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2008/08/things-not-seen-reading-pattiann-rogers/#comment-8796</link>
		<dc:creator>gurtrude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heyy heyy heyy peoples i am gurtrude and i am a fanatic of books! they are my world. i finish one every single day and i never do anything else. from me telling you i read one every day i of course have no social life. alsobecause of books now that i have no social life this also leads to me having no friends :[ at my school where i go to you having only a few friend , no social life,and many .... more you are considered a loser. I gurtrude have none of that though i never get out except to the library, i have not one singe friend, my cusins dont even hang out with me when we havefamily get togethers. I love books but i wish i wasnt such a freak for them that i actually had at least ine friend but i am okay with that cause i like to consider books my friends now and my pet larva. sooo...... i am a freak for books i love them thay are my world and yes! DID I MENTION I LOVE THEM !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heyy heyy heyy peoples i am gurtrude and i am a fanatic of books! they are my world. i finish one every single day and i never do anything else. from me telling you i read one every day i of course have no social life. alsobecause of books now that i have no social life this also leads to me having no friends :[ at my school where i go to you having only a few friend , no social life,and many &#8230;. more you are considered a loser. I gurtrude have none of that though i never get out except to the library, i have not one singe friend, my cusins dont even hang out with me when we havefamily get togethers. I love books but i wish i wasnt such a freak for them that i actually had at least ine friend but i am okay with that cause i like to consider books my friends now and my pet larva. sooo&#8230;&#8230; i am a freak for books i love them thay are my world and yes! DID I MENTION I LOVE THEM !</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2008/08/things-not-seen-reading-pattiann-rogers/#comment-8795</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make it five!  I hadn&#039;t wanted to admit to affecting your manner, be it by stealing a sock from your wash line or the title of a book from your library.  If I had stolen your sock at least I could wear it.  Seeing how this article is a book, I&#039;m not sure what I&#039;ll do.  It&#039;s a pretty cover on it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make it five!  I hadn&#8217;t wanted to admit to affecting your manner, be it by stealing a sock from your wash line or the title of a book from your library.  If I had stolen your sock at least I could wear it.  Seeing how this article is a book, I&#8217;m not sure what I&#8217;ll do.  It&#8217;s a pretty cover on it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2008/08/things-not-seen-reading-pattiann-rogers/#comment-8794</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, glad to be an ambassador, Dick. I think we&#039;re actually in a bit of a golden age. I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll be disappointed with PR.

So it sounds as if all four commenters on this post so far have serious intentions of reading the book. Damn. I should do literary appreciations more often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, glad to be an ambassador, Dick. I think we&#8217;re actually in a bit of a golden age. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll be disappointed with PR.</p>
<p>So it sounds as if all four commenters on this post so far have serious intentions of reading the book. Damn. I should do literary appreciations more often!</p>
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		<title>By: Dick</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2008/08/things-not-seen-reading-pattiann-rogers/#comment-8793</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing PR to my attention, Dave. I&#039;m always conscious of the vast territory of contemporary American poetry lying before me and tips as to where to start the exploration are welcomed. Off to Amazon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing PR to my attention, Dave. I&#8217;m always conscious of the vast territory of contemporary American poetry lying before me and tips as to where to start the exploration are welcomed. Off to Amazon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it still literary criticism – I mean, to Steiner – when your impressions of the poem stem from your desire to emulate it?  I feel your excitement over where Rogers might lead your poetry.  Those painters painting in museum galleries what they see in paintings – it&#039;s the same to me.

I really like the way you reflect on what you see as differences between your poetry and this poem -- her “intramural” figurative language, her pass on the Browning-like situational irony. 

To answer your question: it is marvelous.  I just bought a copy of the book on Biblio for $3.50 delivered.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it still literary criticism – I mean, to Steiner – when your impressions of the poem stem from your desire to emulate it?  I feel your excitement over where Rogers might lead your poetry.  Those painters painting in museum galleries what they see in paintings – it&#8217;s the same to me.</p>
<p>I really like the way you reflect on what you see as differences between your poetry and this poem &#8212; her “intramural” figurative language, her pass on the Browning-like situational irony. </p>
<p>To answer your question: it is marvelous.  I just bought a copy of the book on Biblio for $3.50 delivered.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dale - Thanks, and I&#039;m glad you find these kinds of essays useful. I guess what i meant was, considering that I actually got a degree in comparative literature, my lack of familiarity with critical theory apart from Bahktin and Steiner is unconscionable. But I know you are a Cleanth Brooks disciple yourself, so I&#039;m not surprised you don&#039;t hold that against me!

whiskey - Thanks for taking the time to transcribe all of that. Great poem, and it&#039;s something I think about often, actually. 

Maybe that&#039;s one of the main reasons to read poetry, I&#039;m thinking: for the reminder that there are other weirdos who think about stuff like this. And come to think of it, that&#039;s pretty similar to the reason why I read blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dale &#8211; Thanks, and I&#8217;m glad you find these kinds of essays useful. I guess what i meant was, considering that I actually got a degree in comparative literature, my lack of familiarity with critical theory apart from Bahktin and Steiner is unconscionable. But I know you are a Cleanth Brooks disciple yourself, so I&#8217;m not surprised you don&#8217;t hold that against me!</p>
<p>whiskey &#8211; Thanks for taking the time to transcribe all of that. Great poem, and it&#8217;s something I think about often, actually. </p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s one of the main reasons to read poetry, I&#8217;m thinking: for the reminder that there are other weirdos who think about stuff like this. And come to think of it, that&#8217;s pretty similar to the reason why I read blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 01:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read &quot;Generations&quot; yet, but this poem is from &quot;The Dream of the Marsh Wren&quot; published almost ten years ago -

I am particularly enamored with her supernatural/natural imagery.


&lt;b&gt;Achieving Perspective&lt;/b&gt;
Straight up away from this road,
Away from the fitted particles of frost
Coating the hull of each chick pea,
And the stiff archer bug making its way
In the morning dark, toe hair by toe hair,
Up the stem of the trillium,
Straight up through the sky above this road right now,
The galaxies of the Cygnus A cluster
Are colliding with each other in a massive swarm
Of interpenetrating and exploding catastrophes.
I try to remember that.

And even in the gold and purple pretense
Of evening, I make myself remember
That it would take 40,000 years full of gathering
Into leaf and dropping, full of pulp splitting
And the hard wrinkling of seed, of the rising up
Of wood fibers and the disintegration of forests,
Of this lake disappearing completely in the bodies
Of toad slush and duckweed rock,
40,000 years and the fastest thing we own,
To reach the one star nearest to us.

And when you speak to me like this,
I try to remember that the wood and cement walls
Of this room are being swept away now,
Molecule by molecule, in a slow and steady wind,
And nothing at all separates our bodies
From the vast emptiness expanding, and I know
We are sitting in our chairs
Discoursing in the middle of the blackness of space.
And when you look at me
I try to recall that at this moment
Somewhere millions of miles beyond the dimness
Of the sun, the comet Biela, speeding
In its rocks and ices, is just beginning to enter
The widest arc of its elliptical turn.
 - Pattiann Rogers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read &#8220;Generations&#8221; yet, but this poem is from &#8220;The Dream of the Marsh Wren&#8221; published almost ten years ago -</p>
<p>I am particularly enamored with her supernatural/natural imagery.</p>
<p><b>Achieving Perspective</b><br />
Straight up away from this road,<br />
Away from the fitted particles of frost<br />
Coating the hull of each chick pea,<br />
And the stiff archer bug making its way<br />
In the morning dark, toe hair by toe hair,<br />
Up the stem of the trillium,<br />
Straight up through the sky above this road right now,<br />
The galaxies of the Cygnus A cluster<br />
Are colliding with each other in a massive swarm<br />
Of interpenetrating and exploding catastrophes.<br />
I try to remember that.</p>
<p>And even in the gold and purple pretense<br />
Of evening, I make myself remember<br />
That it would take 40,000 years full of gathering<br />
Into leaf and dropping, full of pulp splitting<br />
And the hard wrinkling of seed, of the rising up<br />
Of wood fibers and the disintegration of forests,<br />
Of this lake disappearing completely in the bodies<br />
Of toad slush and duckweed rock,<br />
40,000 years and the fastest thing we own,<br />
To reach the one star nearest to us.</p>
<p>And when you speak to me like this,<br />
I try to remember that the wood and cement walls<br />
Of this room are being swept away now,<br />
Molecule by molecule, in a slow and steady wind,<br />
And nothing at all separates our bodies<br />
From the vast emptiness expanding, and I know<br />
We are sitting in our chairs<br />
Discoursing in the middle of the blackness of space.<br />
And when you look at me<br />
I try to recall that at this moment<br />
Somewhere millions of miles beyond the dimness<br />
Of the sun, the comet Biela, speeding<br />
In its rocks and ices, is just beginning to enter<br />
The widest arc of its elliptical turn.<br />
 &#8211; Pattiann Rogers</p>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post makes it difficult to accept its own assertion that you are &quot;not too good at the art of literary criticism.&quot;  The first requirement of good criticism, and maybe the last, is to be a generous reader, and you&#039;ve got that in spades.  

Thanks for introducing me to Rogers (and many other poets, over the years!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post makes it difficult to accept its own assertion that you are &#8220;not too good at the art of literary criticism.&#8221;  The first requirement of good criticism, and maybe the last, is to be a generous reader, and you&#8217;ve got that in spades.  </p>
<p>Thanks for introducing me to Rogers (and many other poets, over the years!)</p>
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