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	<title>Comments on: Micropoetry in the West: a brief survey</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/08/micropoetry-in-the-west-a-brief-survey/#comment-11817</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pleased you mentioned tanka as I am amazed that there aren&#039;t more mainstream poets (and writers) creating these incredible micro love poems which are probably more readily understood than haiku in the West.  

You mention a syllable count, and as with haiku, both are genres not forms, although the &quot;perceived form&quot; isn&#039;t so much syllables, but the short line long line format and the turn, or volta like device.

If you can grab a copy of the multi-million selling Salad Anniversary tanka collection by Machi Tawara (translated by Jack Stamm) you will fall in love with tanka. ;-)

all my best,

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pleased you mentioned tanka as I am amazed that there aren&#8217;t more mainstream poets (and writers) creating these incredible micro love poems which are probably more readily understood than haiku in the West.  </p>
<p>You mention a syllable count, and as with haiku, both are genres not forms, although the &#8220;perceived form&#8221; isn&#8217;t so much syllables, but the short line long line format and the turn, or volta like device.</p>
<p>If you can grab a copy of the multi-million selling Salad Anniversary tanka collection by Machi Tawara (translated by Jack Stamm) you will fall in love with tanka. ;-)</p>
<p>all my best,</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here. I&#039;ve been typing wrong words all freakin&#039; day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here. I&#8217;ve been typing wrong words all freakin&#8217; day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluegrass Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluegrass Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last thing should read &quot;I do love this POST.&quot; Brain dead day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last thing should read &#8220;I do love this POST.&#8221; Brain dead day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluegrass Poet</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/08/micropoetry-in-the-west-a-brief-survey/#comment-11814</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluegrass Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me among the ones who don&#039;t get Pound. But I do love this poem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me among the ones who don&#8217;t get Pound. But I do love this poem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/08/micropoetry-in-the-west-a-brief-survey/#comment-11813</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale, you&#039;re the most erudite philistine I know! :) I personally never managed to get into either work, but I did enjoy William Carlos Williams&#039; &lt;em&gt;Paterson&lt;/em&gt; -- I guess because it tackled themes of interest to me, such as people&#039;s relationship with the natural world. &lt;em&gt;Ulysses&lt;/em&gt; does seem to have soul, though. Not sure I&#039;d say that about the Cantos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale, you&#8217;re the most erudite philistine I know! :) I personally never managed to get into either work, but I did enjoy William Carlos Williams&#8217; <em>Paterson</em> &#8212; I guess because it tackled themes of interest to me, such as people&#8217;s relationship with the natural world. <em>Ulysses</em> does seem to have soul, though. Not sure I&#8217;d say that about the Cantos.</p>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/08/micropoetry-in-the-west-a-brief-survey/#comment-11812</link>
		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on the cantos.  I think they get such a great rep because you have to work so hard to read them that afterwards you don&#039;t want to have thrown all that effort away on something less than fabulous.  I feel the same way about Joyce&#039;s Ulysses.  Some good parts, but not really worth the effort.  There are less ambitious poets &amp; novelists who achieved a lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on the cantos.  I think they get such a great rep because you have to work so hard to read them that afterwards you don&#8217;t want to have thrown all that effort away on something less than fabulous.  I feel the same way about Joyce&#8217;s Ulysses.  Some good parts, but not really worth the effort.  There are less ambitious poets &amp; novelists who achieved a lot more.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/08/micropoetry-in-the-west-a-brief-survey/#comment-11811</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, but of course that was just the sort of thing Ezra Pound was fond of doing. I personally find the Cantos pretentious and virtually unreadable -- you&#039;re not wrong about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, but of course that was just the sort of thing Ezra Pound was fond of doing. I personally find the Cantos pretentious and virtually unreadable &#8212; you&#8217;re not wrong about me.</p>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! It&#039;s funny, in the context of a Bonta post, the idea that it could be French never occurred to me.  My mind was trying to make some dialect word for &quot;cigarette&quot; make sense there.  I don&#039;t recollect ever ci git in an English text, but I suppose Merriam Webster knows :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! It&#8217;s funny, in the context of a Bonta post, the idea that it could be French never occurred to me.  My mind was trying to make some dialect word for &#8220;cigarette&#8221; make sense there.  I don&#8217;t recollect ever ci git in an English text, but I suppose Merriam Webster knows :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was fun to pull together. I should do list posts more often.

Don&#039;t spend too much money on that Bly book. It&#039;s mighty skimpy. Some nice Arab poems in it though, and a few other gems you probably won&#039;t find elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was fun to pull together. I should do list posts more often.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t spend too much money on that Bly book. It&#8217;s mighty skimpy. Some nice Arab poems in it though, and a few other gems you probably won&#8217;t find elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/08/micropoetry-in-the-west-a-brief-survey/#comment-11808</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  How did I miss that Bly anthology?

This is a very helpful post.  Thanks for the work it took to write it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  How did I miss that Bly anthology?</p>
<p>This is a very helpful post.  Thanks for the work it took to write it.</p>
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