Comments on: The title of poet http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/ How can we live without the unknown before us? —Rene Char Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mark http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-878155 Mark Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:14:30 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-878155 Well, there ain't no money in poetry...it is a labor of pure love. Well, there ain’t no money in poetry…it is a labor of pure love.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-878146 Dave Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:41:41 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-878146 Hi Mark - Thanks for commenting. I hadn't thought about a title as a possible counterweight to, or license for, poverty. Hmm. Hi Mark – Thanks for commenting. I hadn’t thought about a title as a possible counterweight to, or license for, poverty. Hmm.

]]> By: Mark http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-878091 Mark Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:00:06 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-878091 I don't think of myself as a writer of poetry, but more of a maker of it. Perhaps since I came in quite late in life to the poetry field, both as reader and writer/maker/scribbler, I have no problem with the title of 'poet' as it does have a certain romance to it. It also implies somebody who is poor financially, and yeah baby...that's me all over! As always, you give good things to think about. I don’t think of myself as a writer of poetry, but more of a maker of it. Perhaps since I came in quite late in life to the poetry field, both as reader and writer/maker/scribbler, I have no problem with the title of ‘poet’ as it does have a certain romance to it.

It also implies somebody who is poor financially, and yeah baby…that’s me all over!

As always, you give good things to think about.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-878083 Dave Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:34:44 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-878083 Thanks for that link. I think the author makes some important points. And thanks for the reminder about "makar" -- I think of Scottish poet William Dunbar's memorial for the influential writers of his day, "<a href="http://net.lib.byu.edu/english/wwi/influences/lament.html" rel="nofollow">Lament for the Makers</a>." Thanks for that link. I think the author makes some important points. And thanks for the reminder about “makar” — I think of Scottish poet William Dunbar’s memorial for the influential writers of his day, “Lament for the Makers.”

]]> By: Catherine http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-878011 Catherine Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:08:02 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-878011 I just came across <a href="http://www.inspir-it.com/rambletangents/you-are-what-you-do-repeatedly/ rel="nofollow">this link</a> which seems relevant to the discussion: (titled "You Are What You Do") Oh, and in Scotland, a "makar" is a poet or bard - not too far from "maker" I just came across this link which seems relevant to the discussion:
(titled “You Are What You Do”)
Oh, and in Scotland, a “makar” is a poet or bard – not too far from “maker”

]]> By: dave bonta’s ‘the title of poet’ » mygorgeoussomewhere.org http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-878000 dave bonta’s ‘the title of poet’ » mygorgeoussomewhere.org Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:37:36 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-878000 [...] We like to think of poets as being a bit like shamans. The Greek word poetes means “maker,” and ... [...] [...] We like to think of poets as being a bit like shamans. The Greek word poetes means “maker,” and … [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-877920 Dave Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:01:58 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-877920 Hi Marja-Leena - I'll admit I've been known to envy artists for the money they can sometimes make, but thanks for the reminder that those rewards generally go only to the most driven -- and those who don't have family or other obligations that prevent them from total, single-minded focus on The Work. Hi Marja-Leena – I’ll admit I’ve been known to envy artists for the money they can sometimes make, but thanks for the reminder that those rewards generally go only to the most driven — and those who don’t have family or other obligations that prevent them from total, single-minded focus on The Work.

]]> By: marja-leena http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-877903 marja-leena Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:54:29 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-877903 What a deep thoughtful discussion. I was struck first by this statement: <i>I am occupied by poetry. I am trained to write poetry. I do not make a living writing poetry. Two out of three dictionary definitions isn’t bad?</i> Substitute visual art for poetry in my case and that's what is disturbing and so true. The discussion does refer to other kinds of artists so I'm not saying anything new, just agreeing. It's a symptom of our society, I think, that if you aren't bringing home a fat paycheque every week, you are not successful. I also connect with Marly's sign off in the comment above as to our other occupations, heh. So your final comment, Dave, is right on. What a deep thoughtful discussion. I was struck first by this statement: I am occupied by poetry. I am trained to write poetry. I do not make a living writing poetry. Two out of three dictionary definitions isn’t bad? Substitute visual art for poetry in my case and that’s what is disturbing and so true. The discussion does refer to other kinds of artists so I’m not saying anything new, just agreeing. It’s a symptom of our society, I think, that if you aren’t bringing home a fat paycheque every week, you are not successful. I also connect with Marly’s sign off in the comment above as to our other occupations, heh. So your final comment, Dave, is right on.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-877871 Dave Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:34:17 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-877871 Well, I couldn't put everything in -- that would risk diluting my main point. But I'm not sure that the joy of immersion in the task of writing is essentially different from the joy any other artist or craftsman experiences. When the ancient Daoist philosophers wrote about this, they used the example of woodworkers, archers, and cooks. Well, I couldn’t put everything in — that would risk diluting my main point. But I’m not sure that the joy of immersion in the task of writing is essentially different from the joy any other artist or craftsman experiences. When the ancient Daoist philosophers wrote about this, they used the example of woodworkers, archers, and cooks.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/the-title-of-poet/#comment-877869 Dave Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:30:44 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=5905#comment-877869 Dilettante is a great title! I have sometimes used that one, too. Dilettante is a great title! I have sometimes used that one, too.

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