Comments on: Poetry under the Big Tent http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/ How can we live without the unknown before us? —Rene Char Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:48:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sherry Chandler » Blog Archive » Community http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13865 Sherry Chandler » Blog Archive » Community Fri, 14 May 2010 13:30:29 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13865 [...] the sideshow barkers, who will inlcude Robert Peak, James Brush, and Dave Bonta, among others. As Dave says: [My ideal would be a] decentralized internet where we all have our own sites (whether blogs proper [...] [...] the sideshow barkers, who will inlcude Robert Peak, James Brush, and Dave Bonta, among others. As Dave says: [My ideal would be a] decentralized internet where we all have our own sites (whether blogs proper [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13864 Dave Sun, 09 May 2010 17:04:01 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13864 People often voluntarily let FB go through their email account to see who they know might be already be on Facebook; it's the easiest way to hook up with your firends and contacts. I think what's probably happening in your case is that Facebook recognizes your email address from all those other people's address books. But yes, they are getting increasingly reckless about violating users' privacy, and I've been noticing that the tech press is staring to turn against Facebook in a big way as a result. I think it will go the way of MySpace in another couple of years. It just isn't quite clear yet what will take it's place, but I'm sure something will. People often voluntarily let FB go through their email account to see who they know might be already be on Facebook; it’s the easiest way to hook up with your firends and contacts. I think what’s probably happening in your case is that Facebook recognizes your email address from all those other people’s address books. But yes, they are getting increasingly reckless about violating users’ privacy, and I’ve been noticing that the tech press is staring to turn against Facebook in a big way as a result. I think it will go the way of MySpace in another couple of years. It just isn’t quite clear yet what will take it’s place, but I’m sure something will.

]]> By: Catherine http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13863 Catherine Sun, 09 May 2010 00:03:05 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13863 I don't use Facebook (or Twitter), partly because I don't have time to catch up with all the different ways of connecting on the web, and partly because I am very suspicious of it. I don't necessarily want to muddle up all the parts of my life together in one place, but more seriously, it alarms me that even though I have never been near Facebook, they know all sorts of things about me. Proof of this is that when I get an invitation to connect to someone on Facebook, it comes along with a big list of "other people you might know on Facebook", and it is scarily accurate - and very random, ie if the invitation comes from a poetry blogger, the list of other people includes business contacts, sports group contacts etc, who could not possibly have anything to do with the person the invitation comes from - in other words, Facebook has my e-mail address, and a list of other people who have my e-mail address, even though I never gave permission for that data to be stored there. I don’t use Facebook (or Twitter), partly because I don’t have time to catch up with all the different ways of connecting on the web, and partly because I am very suspicious of it. I don’t necessarily want to muddle up all the parts of my life together in one place, but more seriously, it alarms me that even though I have never been near Facebook, they know all sorts of things about me. Proof of this is that when I get an invitation to connect to someone on Facebook, it comes along with a big list of “other people you might know on Facebook”, and it is scarily accurate – and very random, ie if the invitation comes from a poetry blogger, the list of other people includes business contacts, sports group contacts etc, who could not possibly have anything to do with the person the invitation comes from – in other words, Facebook has my e-mail address, and a list of other people who have my e-mail address, even though I never gave permission for that data to be stored there.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13862 Dave Sat, 08 May 2010 01:26:14 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13862 Yeah, same here. I used Delicious mainly to share links in the sidebar here, and stopped when I got concerned about site load times and took the feature out. Yeah, same here. I used Delicious mainly to share links in the sidebar here, and stopped when I got concerned about site load times and took the feature out.

]]> By: James http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13861 James Fri, 07 May 2010 22:46:36 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13861 I always forget about delicious. I have an account and it can be so useful, yet I always forget to use it. In a way I think FB has taken over some of that too--at least the sharing of links part. In fact that's the thing I find I do most at FB is follow links out to other sites. I always forget about delicious. I have an account and it can be so useful, yet I always forget to use it. In a way I think FB has taken over some of that too–at least the sharing of links part. In fact that’s the thing I find I do most at FB is follow links out to other sites.

]]> By: big tent poetry: persona poem (notes) « carolee sherwood http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13860 big tent poetry: persona poem (notes) « carolee sherwood Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30:41 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13860 [...] please be sure to visit Dave Bonta’s post about being a sideshow barker for Big Tent Poetry. All the clowns in the car piled out to give him hugs when they saw [...] [...] please be sure to visit Dave Bonta’s post about being a sideshow barker for Big Tent Poetry. All the clowns in the car piled out to give him hugs when they saw [...]

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13859 Dave Fri, 07 May 2010 03:44:55 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13859 In a way I'm glad the blogging craze is behind us; blogging isn't for everyone, and there are so many more ways for people to establish a presence on the web now. Delicious, for example, is a great social bookmarking site, and very similar to the original blogs of the 1990s. I think the problem five years ago was that everyone who wanted to be hip online was feeling the pressure to post at least once a day, and not everyone wants to do that. The models were limited. Commenting systems were rudimentary, with poor spam-blocking systems and subscriptions limited to RSS. I don't blame people who just want to connect, share and chatter for abandoning blogs for less cumbersome venues. I'd like to believe you're right about bad poetry blogs having a shorter shelf life, but I can think of a few exceptions. In a way I’m glad the blogging craze is behind us; blogging isn’t for everyone, and there are so many more ways for people to establish a presence on the web now. Delicious, for example, is a great social bookmarking site, and very similar to the original blogs of the 1990s. I think the problem five years ago was that everyone who wanted to be hip online was feeling the pressure to post at least once a day, and not everyone wants to do that. The models were limited. Commenting systems were rudimentary, with poor spam-blocking systems and subscriptions limited to RSS. I don’t blame people who just want to connect, share and chatter for abandoning blogs for less cumbersome venues.

I’d like to believe you’re right about bad poetry blogs having a shorter shelf life, but I can think of a few exceptions.

]]> By: Dave http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13858 Dave Fri, 07 May 2010 03:38:10 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13858 Well, hey, thanks for keeping the spirit of RWP alive. Well, hey, thanks for keeping the spirit of RWP alive.

]]> By: James http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13857 James Thu, 06 May 2010 13:22:07 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13857 Your vision of the decentralized web resonated with me, but I wonder if it's already come and gone. Many of the bloggers I once read when I started 5 years ago are now more active on FB, which is why I think I still resist it to a (diminishing) extent. I think the check on Gersham's Law has to do with quality and attention to craft. Sites (such as yours) have a staying power to them because there appears to be a sense of seriousness. The ones "giving poetry blogging as a whole a bad name" seem to fade over time as the owners lost interest or perhaps audience, I assume. Your vision of the decentralized web resonated with me, but I wonder if it’s already come and gone. Many of the bloggers I once read when I started 5 years ago are now more active on FB, which is why I think I still resist it to a (diminishing) extent.

I think the check on Gersham’s Law has to do with quality and attention to craft. Sites (such as yours) have a staying power to them because there appears to be a sense of seriousness. The ones “giving poetry blogging as a whole a bad name” seem to fade over time as the owners lost interest or perhaps audience, I assume.

]]> By: carolee http://www.vianegativa.us/2010/05/poetry-under-the-big-tent/#comment-13856 carolee Thu, 06 May 2010 12:22:23 +0000 http://www.vianegativa.us/?p=7653#comment-13856 dave, these are high compliments. thank you. thank you. dave, these are high compliments. thank you. thank you.

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