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	<description>Purveyors of fine poetry since 2003.</description>
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		By: Natalie		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-777</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 12:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly, Dale.

Very interesting conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Dale.</p>
<p>Very interesting conversation.</p>
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		By: dale		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Natalie wrote:  What if â€œbecoming attachedâ€? were really the goal? So deeply attached that one&#039;s identity is only revealed when it can find that to which it can become wholly attached?

I think what you mean by &quot;wholly attached&quot; is precisely the same thing I would mean by &quot;free of attachment&quot; :-)  It&#039;s the delusion of self that isolates us from what we love.

The depictions of enlightenment in Tibetan sacred art as sexual union &#038; ecstasy are not just sexy advertising.  It&#039;s the best analogy we know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie wrote:  What if â€œbecoming attachedâ€? were really the goal? So deeply attached that one&#8217;s identity is only revealed when it can find that to which it can become wholly attached?</p>
<p>I think what you mean by &#8220;wholly attached&#8221; is precisely the same thing I would mean by &#8220;free of attachment&#8221; :-)  It&#8217;s the delusion of self that isolates us from what we love.</p>
<p>The depictions of enlightenment in Tibetan sacred art as sexual union &amp; ecstasy are not just sexy advertising.  It&#8217;s the best analogy we know.</p>
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		By: Via Negativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Here there be Squirrels		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-775</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Via Negativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Here there be Squirrels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] The porcupine waddles out along a small branch and stands on its hind legs, freeing its forepaws to grab and stuff nearby twigs into its mouth. This reminds of the way the Baltimore oriole that I photographed two weeks ago used one foot to pull leaves in range of its bill. Unlike the porcupine, though, it was interested only on what was on the leaves, not the leaves themselves. [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The porcupine waddles out along a small branch and stands on its hind legs, freeing its forepaws to grab and stuff nearby twigs into its mouth. This reminds of the way the Baltimore oriole that I photographed two weeks ago used one foot to pull leaves in range of its bill. Unlike the porcupine, though, it was interested only on what was on the leaves, not the leaves themselves. [&#8230;] </p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-774</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 21:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Anne! (In my view, there&#039;s nothing trite about aesthetic appreciation, ever.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Anne! (In my view, there&#8217;s nothing trite about aesthetic appreciation, ever.)</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-773</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 16:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this feels a bit trite after so much erudition, but must be said... your image of tent caterpillars is exquisite!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this feels a bit trite after so much erudition, but must be said&#8230; your image of tent caterpillars is exquisite!</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 01:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Peter! She surprised me with that when the page proofs arrived. (Of course, using epigraphs from poets one isn&#039;t related to can sometimes be a very expensive proposition! I didn&#039;t charge her anything.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Peter! She surprised me with that when the page proofs arrived. (Of course, using epigraphs from poets one isn&#8217;t related to can sometimes be a very expensive proposition! I didn&#8217;t charge her anything.)</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 00:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Make that &lt;em&gt;Appalachian Winter. &lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that <em>Appalachian Winter. </em></p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-770</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 00:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you mentioned &quot;In the Ice Forest.&quot;  I read it as the epigraph of your mother&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Appalachian Spring&lt;/i&gt;.  I thought it was one of your best short poems.   A beautiful balance of imagery and poetic observation!  The mental state you describe comes across very well in it, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you mentioned &#8220;In the Ice Forest.&#8221;  I read it as the epigraph of your mother&#8217;s <i>Appalachian Spring</i>.  I thought it was one of your best short poems.   A beautiful balance of imagery and poetic observation!  The mental state you describe comes across very well in it, I think.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-769</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By the way, here is the sermon where the Harold Schulweis quote about idolatry originated: Adonai-Elohim: The Two Faces of God. A theodicy that leaves plenty of room for nature and accident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, here is the sermon where the Harold Schulweis quote about idolatry originated: Adonai-Elohim: The Two Faces of God. A theodicy that leaves plenty of room for nature and accident.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2006/05/becoming-animal/#comment-768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 11:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That sounds similar to what I think of as &quot;active empathy.&quot; A going-towards - exactly! But I must be more of an animist than you, because I am almost invariably  focused on the particularity of the other, and don&#039;t intimate much about Otherness. Many of my best poems have come out of these sorts of experiences - for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vianegativa.us/2004/02/07/in-the-ice-forest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In the Ice Forest&lt;/a&gt;, or the one I mentioned in the ampersand post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vianegativa.us/2004/09/03/aedes-vexans/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grace&lt;/a&gt;.

The way I would describe my mental state at such times: integrated into the flow. Detached, yet thoroughly involved. Probably very similar to the place where a martial artist wants to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds similar to what I think of as &#8220;active empathy.&#8221; A going-towards &#8211; exactly! But I must be more of an animist than you, because I am almost invariably  focused on the particularity of the other, and don&#8217;t intimate much about Otherness. Many of my best poems have come out of these sorts of experiences &#8211; for example, <a href="http://www.vianegativa.us/2004/02/07/in-the-ice-forest/" rel="nofollow">In the Ice Forest</a>, or the one I mentioned in the ampersand post, <a href="http://www.vianegativa.us/2004/09/03/aedes-vexans/" rel="nofollow">Grace</a>.</p>
<p>The way I would describe my mental state at such times: integrated into the flow. Detached, yet thoroughly involved. Probably very similar to the place where a martial artist wants to be.</p>
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