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		By: marly		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2007/06/blogging-and-impermanence/#comment-4965</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We live in an age of resistance to the idea of a canon of literature, so in some ways this is not shocking or surprising but the natural outcome of the zeitgeist, taken to its extreme.  And I suppose that when one goes to the extreme and comes out on the other end, it&#039;s quite possible to walk away and pick up Homer, the canon-daddy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in an age of resistance to the idea of a canon of literature, so in some ways this is not shocking or surprising but the natural outcome of the zeitgeist, taken to its extreme.  And I suppose that when one goes to the extreme and comes out on the other end, it&#8217;s quite possible to walk away and pick up Homer, the canon-daddy.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Claudia - Of course, comments are always welcome from all readers! And you don&#039;t have to worry about my ending Via Negativa any time soon, though short breaks are always a possibility.

I haven&#039;t been answering too many comments in this thread because i felt they were not necessarily mine to address. In this case, I&#039;m pretty sure I can&#039;t speak for Anonymous in his choice of words. If it had been me, I probably would&#039;ve said &quot;practicing awareness&quot; instead. That may or may not be approximately what he meant.

Thanks for reading. I&#039;ve been enjoying your tree blog, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Claudia &#8211; Of course, comments are always welcome from all readers! And you don&#8217;t have to worry about my ending Via Negativa any time soon, though short breaks are always a possibility.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been answering too many comments in this thread because i felt they were not necessarily mine to address. In this case, I&#8217;m pretty sure I can&#8217;t speak for Anonymous in his choice of words. If it had been me, I probably would&#8217;ve said &#8220;practicing awareness&#8221; instead. That may or may not be approximately what he meant.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading. I&#8217;ve been enjoying your tree blog, too.</p>
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		By: Claudia Lüthi		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2007/06/blogging-and-impermanence/#comment-4963</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you permit me enter your select circle and have a say: do we, in fact, ever know WHY we do this or that or anything? &quot;Misterious are the ways of the lord&quot;. Life is living us. Who is the author? The &quot;I&quot; is just a thought. Therefore, something like &quot;practicing presence&quot; is an impossible thing. We are naturally presence, even if we think that we are not. And within and from this presence I see myself surprisingly doing all sorts of things, amongst others, reading this blog and looking at it&#039;s superb pictures and enjoying it very much. In fact, your blog &quot;via negativa&quot; resonates strongly with me, even though you come from such a different back ground than I do, and I would really miss it if you&#039;d suddenly &quot;decided&quot; to end it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you permit me enter your select circle and have a say: do we, in fact, ever know WHY we do this or that or anything? &#8220;Misterious are the ways of the lord&#8221;. Life is living us. Who is the author? The &#8220;I&#8221; is just a thought. Therefore, something like &#8220;practicing presence&#8221; is an impossible thing. We are naturally presence, even if we think that we are not. And within and from this presence I see myself surprisingly doing all sorts of things, amongst others, reading this blog and looking at it&#8217;s superb pictures and enjoying it very much. In fact, your blog &#8220;via negativa&#8221; resonates strongly with me, even though you come from such a different back ground than I do, and I would really miss it if you&#8217;d suddenly &#8220;decided&#8221; to end it.</p>
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		By: whiskey		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2007/06/blogging-and-impermanence/#comment-4962</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an honor to be mentioned in an interview between two writers I so admire and respect.

What you&#039;re both saying to me, in different ways, is that a writer has to find his own way, and there will be as many different ways as there are writers.

Natalie asked, &quot;What if every writer, artist, composer, architect, philosopher, poet . . . had all decided to destroy their work after a short time? . . .  We wouldn&#039;t know any of it.&quot;

This is true, but it is also completely possible that they did destroy their work, perhaps huge amounts of it, that we will never know, and never know about, and the only work that survives them is the work that they wanted to have survive.

This, itself, is an immense question in the arena of blogging.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an honor to be mentioned in an interview between two writers I so admire and respect.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re both saying to me, in different ways, is that a writer has to find his own way, and there will be as many different ways as there are writers.</p>
<p>Natalie asked, &#8220;What if every writer, artist, composer, architect, philosopher, poet . . . had all decided to destroy their work after a short time? . . .  We wouldn&#8217;t know any of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true, but it is also completely possible that they did destroy their work, perhaps huge amounts of it, that we will never know, and never know about, and the only work that survives them is the work that they wanted to have survive.</p>
<p>This, itself, is an immense question in the arena of blogging.</p>
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		By: am		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2007/06/blogging-and-impermanence/#comment-4961</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The idea of being anonymous and visible and impermanent, much as Emily Dickinson was/is, has a strong appeal for me. Good interview. Thanks so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of being anonymous and visible and impermanent, much as Emily Dickinson was/is, has a strong appeal for me. Good interview. Thanks so much.</p>
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		By: Larry Ayers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Ayers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must confess that Anon.&#039;s approach doesn&#039;t resonate with me.  I enjoy re-reading pieces I wrote last year and the year before and it doesn&#039;t bother me in the least if others do so, both people I know personally and those I don&#039;t.  Sure, there are things that are embarrassing to me now, but I&#039;m only human and have little shame.

I like to think that my writing has improved as the years pass, and old pieces serve as benchmarks.

Thoreau used his journals as prose quarries, and someday I may do the same with my archives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess that Anon.&#8217;s approach doesn&#8217;t resonate with me.  I enjoy re-reading pieces I wrote last year and the year before and it doesn&#8217;t bother me in the least if others do so, both people I know personally and those I don&#8217;t.  Sure, there are things that are embarrassing to me now, but I&#8217;m only human and have little shame.</p>
<p>I like to think that my writing has improved as the years pass, and old pieces serve as benchmarks.</p>
<p>Thoreau used his journals as prose quarries, and someday I may do the same with my archives.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Further to Dave&#039;s &quot;balance an impulse toward self-expression with a strong desire to maintain privacy&quot;:

&lt;i&gt;The notion of a poet . . . destroying what he has written . . . is conceivable. . . . [T]hey have done so precisely under pressure of the other&#039;s intrusion.  It is because the claims of the other&#039;s presence reach so deeply into the final precincts of aloneness that a creator may, under circumstances of extremity, seek to guard for himself or for willed oblivion what are, ineluctably, acts of communication and trials of encounter. &lt;/i&gt;

A quote from George Steiner&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Real Presences&lt;/i&gt;, a book Dave recommended somewhere and one that I&#039;m nursing down this month. (Steiner&#039;s point isn&#039;t evident from the quote alone; he is meeting anticipated objections to his assertion that art presupposes &quot;the other.&quot;)

Readers do get into my mind in unhealthy ways, and it is in that sense of maintaining privacy that I periodically walk away from blogging.  (I don&#039;t pretend to speak for Anon., of course.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Dave&#8217;s &#8220;balance an impulse toward self-expression with a strong desire to maintain privacy&#8221;:</p>
<p><i>The notion of a poet . . . destroying what he has written . . . is conceivable. . . . [T]hey have done so precisely under pressure of the other&#8217;s intrusion.  It is because the claims of the other&#8217;s presence reach so deeply into the final precincts of aloneness that a creator may, under circumstances of extremity, seek to guard for himself or for willed oblivion what are, ineluctably, acts of communication and trials of encounter. </i></p>
<p>A quote from George Steiner&#8217;s <i>Real Presences</i>, a book Dave recommended somewhere and one that I&#8217;m nursing down this month. (Steiner&#8217;s point isn&#8217;t evident from the quote alone; he is meeting anticipated objections to his assertion that art presupposes &#8220;the other.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Readers do get into my mind in unhealthy ways, and it is in that sense of maintaining privacy that I periodically walk away from blogging.  (I don&#8217;t pretend to speak for Anon., of course.)</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2007/06/blogging-and-impermanence/#comment-4958</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;For me, blogging is my real work -- or at least an important, valid part of that work. It&#039;s not an exercise, and it&#039;s decidedly &lt;em&gt;not &lt;/em&gt; impermanent.&quot;
Same for me. (I guess that&#039;s obvious.)

Good points about HDT&#039;s journals, etc. As for Emily Dickinson, my feeling is that although Anon stands out among bloggers, he may not be all that atypical of people in general in the way he tries to balance an impulse toward self-expression with a strong desire to maintain privacy. Maybe this interview will inspire other introverts to take up blogging.

Nancy - There&#039;s no doubt Anon has a lock on the mystique thing. I&#039;m not sure that enters much into his thinking, though. I&#039;m with you on the grumpiness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For me, blogging is my real work &#8212; or at least an important, valid part of that work. It&#8217;s not an exercise, and it&#8217;s decidedly <em>not </em> impermanent.&#8221;<br />
Same for me. (I guess that&#8217;s obvious.)</p>
<p>Good points about HDT&#8217;s journals, etc. As for Emily Dickinson, my feeling is that although Anon stands out among bloggers, he may not be all that atypical of people in general in the way he tries to balance an impulse toward self-expression with a strong desire to maintain privacy. Maybe this interview will inspire other introverts to take up blogging.</p>
<p>Nancy &#8211; There&#8217;s no doubt Anon has a lock on the mystique thing. I&#8217;m not sure that enters much into his thinking, though. I&#8217;m with you on the grumpiness.</p>
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		By: Nancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t these repeated appearances and disappearances have something in common with a dance of (several) veils?  Don&#039;t they increase Anon&#039;s mystique?  (If so, then dance on, please.) I wish he&#039;d leave a little gap between the announcement of his impending disappearance and the act itself -- I hate getting those 404 pages... (a grumpy comment, because I don&#039;t like it when people I&#039;m accustomed to reading suddenly vanish.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t these repeated appearances and disappearances have something in common with a dance of (several) veils?  Don&#8217;t they increase Anon&#8217;s mystique?  (If so, then dance on, please.) I wish he&#8217;d leave a little gap between the announcement of his impending disappearance and the act itself &#8212; I hate getting those 404 pages&#8230; (a grumpy comment, because I don&#8217;t like it when people I&#8217;m accustomed to reading suddenly vanish.)</p>
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		By: Lorianne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, a fourth point (hey, at least I warned you!)  As someone who recently had my own blog go up in virtual smoke &lt;i&gt;but&lt;/i&gt; who managed to salvage everything, I obviously don&#039;t &quot;really&quot; believe in impermanent blogging...at least for me.  I think each writer eventually reaches a kind of philosophy of (im)permanence regarding what work &quot;counts&quot; and what work is &quot;practice.&quot;  As a scholar, I&#039;d be heartbroken if, say, Henry David Thoreau&#039;s journals had been lost:  as a scholar, I value being able to follow the motions of a now-dead mind.  And I, like other Thoreauvians, think that portions of Hank&#039;s journal &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; his real work, not &quot;just&quot; practice pages.

I&#039;m thinking of Annie Dillard&#039;s author&#039;s note to her collection of essays &lt;i&gt;Teaching a Stone to Talk&lt;/i&gt;, where she remarks that these short works aren&#039;t occasional pieces:  they&#039;re her real work.  For whatever reason, she felt necessary to assert the validity of her short prose, knowing that some folks would see her book-length projects as being more &quot;real&quot; or valid.

For me, blogging is my &quot;real work,&quot; or at least an important, valid &lt;i&gt;part&lt;/i&gt; of that work.  It&#039;s not an exercise, and it&#039;s decidedly &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; impermanent.  But all that being said, I can see &#038; understand where &quot;Anon&quot; is coming from:  his simply isn&#039;t a practice that I fully share.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, a fourth point (hey, at least I warned you!)  As someone who recently had my own blog go up in virtual smoke <i>but</i> who managed to salvage everything, I obviously don&#8217;t &#8220;really&#8221; believe in impermanent blogging&#8230;at least for me.  I think each writer eventually reaches a kind of philosophy of (im)permanence regarding what work &#8220;counts&#8221; and what work is &#8220;practice.&#8221;  As a scholar, I&#8217;d be heartbroken if, say, Henry David Thoreau&#8217;s journals had been lost:  as a scholar, I value being able to follow the motions of a now-dead mind.  And I, like other Thoreauvians, think that portions of Hank&#8217;s journal <i>are</i> his real work, not &#8220;just&#8221; practice pages.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of Annie Dillard&#8217;s author&#8217;s note to her collection of essays <i>Teaching a Stone to Talk</i>, where she remarks that these short works aren&#8217;t occasional pieces:  they&#8217;re her real work.  For whatever reason, she felt necessary to assert the validity of her short prose, knowing that some folks would see her book-length projects as being more &#8220;real&#8221; or valid.</p>
<p>For me, blogging is my &#8220;real work,&#8221; or at least an important, valid <i>part</i> of that work.  It&#8217;s not an exercise, and it&#8217;s decidedly <i>not</i> impermanent.  But all that being said, I can see &amp; understand where &#8220;Anon&#8221; is coming from:  his simply isn&#8217;t a practice that I fully share.</p>
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