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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-27608&quot;&gt;Jean Hubble&lt;/a&gt;.

Jean, click on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creative Commons license&lt;/a&gt; in the sidebar: you&#039;re welcome to use my poem however you want as long as I&#039;m given credit and you don&#039;t include it in a conventionally copyrighted work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-27608">Jean Hubble</a>.</p>
<p>Jean, click on the <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/" rel="nofollow">Creative Commons license</a> in the sidebar: you&#8217;re welcome to use my poem however you want as long as I&#8217;m given credit and you don&#8217;t include it in a conventionally copyrighted work.</p>
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		By: Jean Hubble		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean Hubble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You would not believe how this poem has touched me.
I am totally against placing transmitters on free flying birds and raptors.
And to hear it spoken from the eagles point of view, was heart breaking.
May I reprint it on our page on FB...our page is to Boycott putting transmitters on Eagles &#038; Raptors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would not believe how this poem has touched me.<br />
I am totally against placing transmitters on free flying birds and raptors.<br />
And to hear it spoken from the eagles point of view, was heart breaking.<br />
May I reprint it on our page on FB&#8230;our page is to Boycott putting transmitters on Eagles &amp; Raptors.</p>
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		By: sister AE		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7034</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sister AE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the idea of the transmitter as clothing for the bird.  An interesting twist of thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of the transmitter as clothing for the bird.  An interesting twist of thinking.</p>
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		By: ..deb		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7033</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have always wondered what radio-collared birds felt. Thank you for exploring it, so beautifully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wondered what radio-collared birds felt. Thank you for exploring it, so beautifully.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7032</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joan - That last line gets you my favorite commenter of the week ward! Hee. 

I didn&#039;t mean to imply that the eagle can feel or hear anything from the electronic workings of the transmitter -- I don&#039;t think she can -- but simply that she is made conscious of her own pulse and her physical continuity in a new way. I guess you got all that. It&#039;s always tricky to know how much to trust one&#039;s audience to figure out; I&#039;m really pleased that you and the other commenters got what I was trying to do here. Not that it&#039;s a difficult poem, but it is one where every word packs a lot of freight.

Oh, and i like the heart monitor analogy.

Dick - Very glad you think so. Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joan &#8211; That last line gets you my favorite commenter of the week ward! Hee. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that the eagle can feel or hear anything from the electronic workings of the transmitter &#8212; I don&#8217;t think she can &#8212; but simply that she is made conscious of her own pulse and her physical continuity in a new way. I guess you got all that. It&#8217;s always tricky to know how much to trust one&#8217;s audience to figure out; I&#8217;m really pleased that you and the other commenters got what I was trying to do here. Not that it&#8217;s a difficult poem, but it is one where every word packs a lot of freight.</p>
<p>Oh, and i like the heart monitor analogy.</p>
<p>Dick &#8211; Very glad you think so. Cheers.</p>
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		By: Dick		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7031</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A superb pairing of picture &#038; poem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A superb pairing of picture &amp; poem.</p>
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		By: Joan		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a poem!   
&quot;A grasp that does not still the heart&quot; 
This one  stuck in my mind.  Taking it metaphorically most human things that grasp too tightly do still the heart.. or at least the love.  Taking it literally.. the hawk is only familiar with grasps that kill instantly .  He&#039;s not yet aware of slow death by monitor.  This whole wonderful  poem could be taken another way if written  by a person with a heart monitor.   That  feeling that something there is not &#039;you&#039;.  The annoying beat beat beat..in heart case lifesaving..in the Eagle&#039;s  case, life snooping.  Strange  that in a country which claims to value our privacy so much  we do this to wild things.  But what do I know.  The thing may self destruct before the eagle gets totally neurotic, and might provide us with valuable eagle info.  It&#039;s certainly large enough to be a critter cam. 

 O.k. I tend to write too much in comments  Perhaps I ride the snake of long winded. (grin)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a poem!<br />
&#8220;A grasp that does not still the heart&#8221;<br />
This one  stuck in my mind.  Taking it metaphorically most human things that grasp too tightly do still the heart.. or at least the love.  Taking it literally.. the hawk is only familiar with grasps that kill instantly .  He&#8217;s not yet aware of slow death by monitor.  This whole wonderful  poem could be taken another way if written  by a person with a heart monitor.   That  feeling that something there is not &#8216;you&#8217;.  The annoying beat beat beat..in heart case lifesaving..in the Eagle&#8217;s  case, life snooping.  Strange  that in a country which claims to value our privacy so much  we do this to wild things.  But what do I know.  The thing may self destruct before the eagle gets totally neurotic, and might provide us with valuable eagle info.  It&#8217;s certainly large enough to be a critter cam. </p>
<p> O.k. I tend to write too much in comments  Perhaps I ride the snake of long winded. (grin)</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks. I think those &quot;missed opportunities&quot; go into a sort of subconscious bank, though: the poems we don&#039;t write are a kind of dark matter keeping our poetic universe in balance. God forbid I ever learn how to exploit every creative opportunity that came my way. I&#039;m sure that shark will find a way of surfacing in your work sooner or later, if you give it time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I think those &#8220;missed opportunities&#8221; go into a sort of subconscious bank, though: the poems we don&#8217;t write are a kind of dark matter keeping our poetic universe in balance. God forbid I ever learn how to exploit every creative opportunity that came my way. I&#8217;m sure that shark will find a way of surfacing in your work sooner or later, if you give it time.</p>
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		By: Linda Jacobs		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda Jacobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband caught a shark last summer that had been banded by some group up in Canada.  At the time, I wondered if having that band on made swimming for the shark different and if he was relieved when it was removed and he was thrown back in.  But unlike you, I didn&#039;t write a poem about it.  Another missed opportunity!

I felt like I was that eagle; your words are so well-chosen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband caught a shark last summer that had been banded by some group up in Canada.  At the time, I wondered if having that band on made swimming for the shark different and if he was relieved when it was removed and he was thrown back in.  But unlike you, I didn&#8217;t write a poem about it.  Another missed opportunity!</p>
<p>I felt like I was that eagle; your words are so well-chosen!</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/02/golden-eagle-with-transmitter/#comment-7027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all the kind comments. I guess I should revisit my older photos more often -- not only did it spark a poem, but I think I managed to make lemonade from a lemon as far as the photo at the top of this post is concerned. Hooray for Photoshop!

You&#039;ll have to take my word for it, but I can assure you that the scientists involved in this project are deeply sensitive people who treat their research subjects with gentleness and respect. Todd Katzner is even a budding nature writer, I believe -- and lord knows we need more scientists who are also naturalists, as Reed Noss says in the post Sally mentions. The methods are intrusive, but the results of the research may well help save the eastern golden eagle from extinction -- that&#039;s how severe the threat from industrial wind &quot;farms&quot; on all their major migration corridors could be. With the National Aviary and the Carnegie Museum of Natural History behind it, and funding from the Pennsylvania Game Commission, the findings from this study will be very difficult for policy-makers to ignore. The tough part will be getting the eastern golden eagle recognized as a subspecies and protected by the Endangered Species Act.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the kind comments. I guess I should revisit my older photos more often &#8212; not only did it spark a poem, but I think I managed to make lemonade from a lemon as far as the photo at the top of this post is concerned. Hooray for Photoshop!</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to take my word for it, but I can assure you that the scientists involved in this project are deeply sensitive people who treat their research subjects with gentleness and respect. Todd Katzner is even a budding nature writer, I believe &#8212; and lord knows we need more scientists who are also naturalists, as Reed Noss says in the post Sally mentions. The methods are intrusive, but the results of the research may well help save the eastern golden eagle from extinction &#8212; that&#8217;s how severe the threat from industrial wind &#8220;farms&#8221; on all their major migration corridors could be. With the National Aviary and the Carnegie Museum of Natural History behind it, and funding from the Pennsylvania Game Commission, the findings from this study will be very difficult for policy-makers to ignore. The tough part will be getting the eastern golden eagle recognized as a subspecies and protected by the Endangered Species Act.</p>
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