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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, you&#039;re right!  Spring certainly doesn&#039;t come for the toads at the herpetarium.

And I edited this!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you&#8217;re right!  Spring certainly doesn&#8217;t come for the toads at the herpetarium.</p>
<p>And I edited this!</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right: those two words are very hard to forget, aren&#039;t they? &quot;Sapo&quot; in particular sounds way more like the creature it names than &quot;toad,&quot; to my ear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right: those two words are very hard to forget, aren&#8217;t they? &#8220;Sapo&#8221; in particular sounds way more like the creature it names than &#8220;toad,&#8221; to my ear.</p>
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		By: leslee		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/04/fossils-of-the-wind/#comment-7570</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ha. Well, this was well worth your freezing your butt off, at least for me. :-) Thanks!

It also reminds me that rana is the word in Spanish for frog. Sapo being a toad. For some reason, as I lose all my Spanish vocabulary from disuse, I remember the distinction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. Well, this was well worth your freezing your butt off, at least for me. :-) Thanks!</p>
<p>It also reminds me that rana is the word in Spanish for frog. Sapo being a toad. For some reason, as I lose all my Spanish vocabulary from disuse, I remember the distinction.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/04/fossils-of-the-wind/#comment-7569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know. I think it&#039;s realistic of him to suggest that under such cicumstances the power of spring to revive the spirit might be somewhat lessened, so in that sense spring is not quite the resurgence of life and light that we are used to experiencing.

&lt;em&gt;Down and Out&lt;/em&gt; was good. But my favorite book of his was &lt;em&gt;Coming Up for Air&lt;/em&gt;, which strikes me as more prophetic than either &lt;em&gt;Animal Farm&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;1984&lt;/em&gt; because it takes such a hard look at our relationship with the natural world.

&quot;Plugins&quot; as I was using the term refers specifically to optional WordPress code added on to the core functionality, which is lean by design. But if you&#039;re using Firefox there are all kinds of extensions and user-side scripts that you can add - maybe some people call them plugins, I don&#039;t know. I don&#039;t know about other browsers because I don&#039;t use them, except when making sure that a site I&#039;m tweaking displays properly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. I think it&#8217;s realistic of him to suggest that under such cicumstances the power of spring to revive the spirit might be somewhat lessened, so in that sense spring is not quite the resurgence of life and light that we are used to experiencing.</p>
<p><em>Down and Out</em> was good. But my favorite book of his was <em>Coming Up for Air</em>, which strikes me as more prophetic than either <em>Animal Farm</em> or <em>1984</em> because it takes such a hard look at our relationship with the natural world.</p>
<p>&#8220;Plugins&#8221; as I was using the term refers specifically to optional WordPress code added on to the core functionality, which is lean by design. But if you&#8217;re using Firefox there are all kinds of extensions and user-side scripts that you can add &#8211; maybe some people call them plugins, I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t know about other browsers because I don&#8217;t use them, except when making sure that a site I&#8217;m tweaking displays properly.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed the Orwell essay, though I think he&#039;s wrong about one thing: &quot;So long as you are not actually ill, hungry, frightened or immured in a prison or a holiday camp, spring is still spring.&quot;  I would say that even under all those conditions and places spring is probably still spring.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the Orwell essay, though I think he&#8217;s wrong about one thing: &#8220;So long as you are not actually ill, hungry, frightened or immured in a prison or a holiday camp, spring is still spring.&#8221;  I would say that even under all those conditions and places spring is probably still spring.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/04/fossils-of-the-wind/#comment-7567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I should think comment editing ability is a very good ideal to pursue, and for my part I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll try again, though I don&#039;t like reporting on my misadventures!  I&#039;m not liable to edit my comments very well anyway as my favorite thing to do with a comment is to let it fly.  I&#039;m not one to keep them long in hand.  If I do, they don&#039;t get sent.

Plug-ins are a big mystery to me, but I&#039;m interested in them because of what they can apparently accomplish.   I&#039;d like to be able to make my browser frame disappear and I hear there&#039;s one that can do that.  As well I&#039;d like to reverse my scroll orientation, and if I&#039;ve understood correctly there&#039;s one that can do that as well.  I&#039;ve been doing a lot of finger pad scrolling on my laptop (an equivalent to right click mouse scrolling perhaps ?) and I&#039;ve just come to notice that when I move my fingers down the screen goes the up, in the opposite direction that I&#039;m moving my fingers and it&#039;s really messing me up!  That needs to get straightened out!   I want the sense of having the page under my fingers and being able to move it that way and not have to fly up over it like a hawk over field as it passes under me.  Maybe that&#039;s not the best way to explain it: I&#039;d like to have the page move the direction my fingers, or mouse, is moving.  I think you have a PC, does your screen move with you?

In the case of the ventifacts I actually had prior independent knowledge of them.   I had a bit of difficulty with the Simic metaphor, so I was happy to clunk around with such ready to hand literal objects.  I always am.  Nothing like stuff!  There was some 80&#039;s pop song that had the line...there&#039;s a hole in my heart where the wind blows through... was it Pere Ubu?  No...  But I like wind shaped holes.  Meteorites are somewhere else you can find them, though it&#039;s not exactly a case of wind erosion, and it&#039;s really cool when they give the feel of a wind shaped liquid, as though they were molten, even though they probably weren&#039;t, though I wouldn&#039;t know.  Libyan desert glass, sand vitrified by a meteor impact then left to weather millennia of sandstorms is another neat kind of ventifact.

Are they fossils?  Probably not, but that one geologist did call them that so I went with it!

Sorry to go on so discursively.  I&#039;ve been away, as I was being a jerk, so thanks for having me back.  I&#039;ll try to be good and to stay sober.

Thanks for the Orwell link.  I recently enjoyed very much reading &quot;Down and Out&quot; at an Orwell-on-line site, especially since I managed to come across pages not of white, with too high contrast, but a very reasonable grey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I should think comment editing ability is a very good ideal to pursue, and for my part I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll try again, though I don&#8217;t like reporting on my misadventures!  I&#8217;m not liable to edit my comments very well anyway as my favorite thing to do with a comment is to let it fly.  I&#8217;m not one to keep them long in hand.  If I do, they don&#8217;t get sent.</p>
<p>Plug-ins are a big mystery to me, but I&#8217;m interested in them because of what they can apparently accomplish.   I&#8217;d like to be able to make my browser frame disappear and I hear there&#8217;s one that can do that.  As well I&#8217;d like to reverse my scroll orientation, and if I&#8217;ve understood correctly there&#8217;s one that can do that as well.  I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of finger pad scrolling on my laptop (an equivalent to right click mouse scrolling perhaps ?) and I&#8217;ve just come to notice that when I move my fingers down the screen goes the up, in the opposite direction that I&#8217;m moving my fingers and it&#8217;s really messing me up!  That needs to get straightened out!   I want the sense of having the page under my fingers and being able to move it that way and not have to fly up over it like a hawk over field as it passes under me.  Maybe that&#8217;s not the best way to explain it: I&#8217;d like to have the page move the direction my fingers, or mouse, is moving.  I think you have a PC, does your screen move with you?</p>
<p>In the case of the ventifacts I actually had prior independent knowledge of them.   I had a bit of difficulty with the Simic metaphor, so I was happy to clunk around with such ready to hand literal objects.  I always am.  Nothing like stuff!  There was some 80&#8217;s pop song that had the line&#8230;there&#8217;s a hole in my heart where the wind blows through&#8230; was it Pere Ubu?  No&#8230;  But I like wind shaped holes.  Meteorites are somewhere else you can find them, though it&#8217;s not exactly a case of wind erosion, and it&#8217;s really cool when they give the feel of a wind shaped liquid, as though they were molten, even though they probably weren&#8217;t, though I wouldn&#8217;t know.  Libyan desert glass, sand vitrified by a meteor impact then left to weather millennia of sandstorms is another neat kind of ventifact.</p>
<p>Are they fossils?  Probably not, but that one geologist did call them that so I went with it!</p>
<p>Sorry to go on so discursively.  I&#8217;ve been away, as I was being a jerk, so thanks for having me back.  I&#8217;ll try to be good and to stay sober.</p>
<p>Thanks for the Orwell link.  I recently enjoyed very much reading &#8220;Down and Out&#8221; at an Orwell-on-line site, especially since I managed to come across pages not of white, with too high contrast, but a very reasonable grey.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn, Bill, you&#039;re right - not only is there no &quot;delete&quot; button, but blanking the comment is forbidden. That&#039;s kind of a big omission on the part of this plugin&#039;s creators.

Still, it&#039;s better than no editing ability at all, I hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, Bill, you&#8217;re right &#8211; not only is there no &#8220;delete&#8221; button, but blanking the comment is forbidden. That&#8217;s kind of a big omission on the part of this plugin&#8217;s creators.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s better than no editing ability at all, I hope.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill - Thanks for both the comments and the feedback on this new commenting system. I took the liberty of deleting your first comment just now, since that seemed to be your desire, but it&#039;s a little surprising that you can&#039;t do so yourself. In a second I&#039;ll open another browser where I&#039;m not logged in and try that out myself.

In regards to &quot;fossils of the wind,&quot; thanks for doing what I should&#039;ve and looking for literal applications! It&#039;s maybe a slight stretch to call them fossils, though, I suppose - is a footprint in stone referred to as a fossil? Still, very cool. And your description of the herpetarium was very lyrical, if sad.

Hope you weren&#039;t too frustrated looking for that essay; it was actually toads rather than frogs (biologically, there&#039;s no difference). Here &#039;tis: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/Common_Toad/english/e_ctoad&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Thoughts on the Common Toad&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; Thanks for both the comments and the feedback on this new commenting system. I took the liberty of deleting your first comment just now, since that seemed to be your desire, but it&#8217;s a little surprising that you can&#8217;t do so yourself. In a second I&#8217;ll open another browser where I&#8217;m not logged in and try that out myself.</p>
<p>In regards to &#8220;fossils of the wind,&#8221; thanks for doing what I should&#8217;ve and looking for literal applications! It&#8217;s maybe a slight stretch to call them fossils, though, I suppose &#8211; is a footprint in stone referred to as a fossil? Still, very cool. And your description of the herpetarium was very lyrical, if sad.</p>
<p>Hope you weren&#8217;t too frustrated looking for that essay; it was actually toads rather than frogs (biologically, there&#8217;s no difference). Here &#8217;tis: <a href="http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/Common_Toad/english/e_ctoad" rel="nofollow">Some Thoughts on the Common Toad</a></p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hm.  It seems I can&#039;t entirely delete a comment altogether, but must leave a shred, otherwise it is impossible to save.  I also managed to multiply my comments somehow.  Very interesting!  Uncertainty abounds as well as the red letters &quot;author saving failed!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  It seems I can&#8217;t entirely delete a comment altogether, but must leave a shred, otherwise it is impossible to save.  I also managed to multiply my comments somehow.  Very interesting!  Uncertainty abounds as well as the red letters &#8220;author saving failed!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/6f77ys&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fossils of the wind.&lt;/a&gt;

Interesting too, that nearer to you, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ventifact.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Long Island&lt;/a&gt;  has them as well.

One of my keystone images of this late winter derives from a visit to a deserted herpetarium during a downpour, which fell upon a skylight in, as Miguel wrote, a soothing din.  All the commonplace sadness and ironies of a zoo were in place, as the soft energy of rain fell on the hard glass which roofed over a dry central garden, around which were walls containing electrically light exhibits of near extinct and extinct frogs,  and lizards whose rain forests have gone missing.  In one desert scape a leak in the roof let water pour in.  It was darkened as workmen swore and converged upon it.

I&#039;m off to see about Mr. Orwell&#039;s frogs!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6f77ys" rel="nofollow">Fossils of the wind.</a></p>
<p>Interesting too, that nearer to you, <a href="http://www.ventifact.com/" rel="nofollow">Long Island</a>  has them as well.</p>
<p>One of my keystone images of this late winter derives from a visit to a deserted herpetarium during a downpour, which fell upon a skylight in, as Miguel wrote, a soothing din.  All the commonplace sadness and ironies of a zoo were in place, as the soft energy of rain fell on the hard glass which roofed over a dry central garden, around which were walls containing electrically light exhibits of near extinct and extinct frogs,  and lizards whose rain forests have gone missing.  In one desert scape a leak in the roof let water pour in.  It was darkened as workmen swore and converged upon it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m off to see about Mr. Orwell&#8217;s frogs!</p>
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