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		By: David Harmon		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spring in Charlottesville seems to mean lots of evening storms, with a few all-day storms for a change-up. I just had to dash out to get the garbage out to the dumpster, and I could easily see both sheets and columns of rain. The columns were mostly shaded against the sky, while the sheets were visible at ground level.

Lee&#039;s River:  Caterpillars that bite just when they fall on you?  Nasty!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spring in Charlottesville seems to mean lots of evening storms, with a few all-day storms for a change-up. I just had to dash out to get the garbage out to the dumpster, and I could easily see both sheets and columns of rain. The columns were mostly shaded against the sky, while the sheets were visible at ground level.</p>
<p>Lee&#8217;s River:  Caterpillars that bite just when they fall on you?  Nasty!</p>
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		By: Lee's River		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[all that was said.

the tent caterpillars up in Canada used to bite something fierce when they fell from a leaf and landed on your neck. So arched back like cats, and sharp little mandibles, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all that was said.</p>
<p>the tent caterpillars up in Canada used to bite something fierce when they fell from a leaf and landed on your neck. So arched back like cats, and sharp little mandibles, too.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Larry - We have wild sweet cherries, too -- I think of them as feral cherries. But the tree I&#039;m talking about here, black cherry or &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PRSE2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prunus serotina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, is a full-sized forest tree with scaley rather than lenticilate bark, beautiful red-brown wood, and clusters of small, sour fruit that are mostly pit.

Tent caterpillars are fond of most fruit trees, I think, and like gypsy moths with oaks, will spill over into less-preferred species during peak outbreaks.

Peter - Our last couple springs have been cool but dry here. Two years ago we had a big tent caterpillar ourbreak in many parts of the northeast - you may remember Rachel Barenblat writing about it at &lt;em&gt;Velveteen Rabbi&lt;/em&gt;.

Glad to hear your hike went so well, and good on you for helping introduce kids to the outdoors.

Sometimes, I wish I were a turtle.

...deb - Glad you liked the post. I gather that there are a number of different species of tent caterpillars world-wide, but I&#039;m only familiar with the eastern. We also have fall webworms, though. Several years ago - 2004, I think - they turned our western ridge completely white with their webs in August.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry &#8211; We have wild sweet cherries, too &#8212; I think of them as feral cherries. But the tree I&#8217;m talking about here, black cherry or <em><a href="http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PRSE2" rel="nofollow">Prunus serotina</a></em>, is a full-sized forest tree with scaley rather than lenticilate bark, beautiful red-brown wood, and clusters of small, sour fruit that are mostly pit.</p>
<p>Tent caterpillars are fond of most fruit trees, I think, and like gypsy moths with oaks, will spill over into less-preferred species during peak outbreaks.</p>
<p>Peter &#8211; Our last couple springs have been cool but dry here. Two years ago we had a big tent caterpillar ourbreak in many parts of the northeast &#8211; you may remember Rachel Barenblat writing about it at <em>Velveteen Rabbi</em>.</p>
<p>Glad to hear your hike went so well, and good on you for helping introduce kids to the outdoors.</p>
<p>Sometimes, I wish I were a turtle.</p>
<p>&#8230;deb &#8211; Glad you liked the post. I gather that there are a number of different species of tent caterpillars world-wide, but I&#8217;m only familiar with the eastern. We also have fall webworms, though. Several years ago &#8211; 2004, I think &#8211; they turned our western ridge completely white with their webs in August.</p>
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		By: ..deb		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/05/none-dwell-in-their-tents/#comment-8116</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is why I like visiting...so much information to satisfy a curiosity I didn&#039;t know I had.

We&#039;ve got tents here, in the Pacific Northwest. I see their structures in the summer, though, in the Columbia Gorge. Now I&#039;ll be looking for them and will have a better eye, and idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I like visiting&#8230;so much information to satisfy a curiosity I didn&#8217;t know I had.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got tents here, in the Pacific Northwest. I see their structures in the summer, though, in the Columbia Gorge. Now I&#8217;ll be looking for them and will have a better eye, and idea.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2008/05/none-dwell-in-their-tents/#comment-8115</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t kept track, but it seems as if we&#039;ve had warm winters and quite cool springs for several years running here in the northern Virginia Piedmont.

The Scouts and I hiked six miles on the Appalachian Trail yesterday and got wind, sunshine, and then thunderstorms with heavy rain.  It was nice to be outdoors.

I think the turtle was winking at you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t kept track, but it seems as if we&#8217;ve had warm winters and quite cool springs for several years running here in the northern Virginia Piedmont.</p>
<p>The Scouts and I hiked six miles on the Appalachian Trail yesterday and got wind, sunshine, and then thunderstorms with heavy rain.  It was nice to be outdoors.</p>
<p>I think the turtle was winking at you.</p>
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		By: Larry Ayers		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting post, Dave!  Here in Hannibal tent caterpillars are common, but we don&#039;t have as many wild cherry trees as you seem to have.  Wild cherries here are scrubby edge trees and rarely attain much stature.

The tent caterpillars around here like the cherries, but they also seem to thrive on black locust and elm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Dave!  Here in Hannibal tent caterpillars are common, but we don&#8217;t have as many wild cherry trees as you seem to have.  Wild cherries here are scrubby edge trees and rarely attain much stature.</p>
<p>The tent caterpillars around here like the cherries, but they also seem to thrive on black locust and elm.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CGP - Oops, I didn&#039;t see your comment earlier - i was working on my own comment when it came in. I&#039;m glad to hear this was still of interest to someone from a very different ecoregion.

David - Please don&#039;t mistake me for a snake expert. I do think most snakes swim, though. It&#039;s always such a surprising sight to me.

(Glad you&#039;re finding the comment editing feature helpful. I think I&#039;ve about reached the point of plugin saturation - if i add any more, I&#039;ll have to take some out to avoid slowing the site down too much. But that&#039;s one I&#039;ll definitely leave alone.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CGP &#8211; Oops, I didn&#8217;t see your comment earlier &#8211; i was working on my own comment when it came in. I&#8217;m glad to hear this was still of interest to someone from a very different ecoregion.</p>
<p>David &#8211; Please don&#8217;t mistake me for a snake expert. I do think most snakes swim, though. It&#8217;s always such a surprising sight to me.</p>
<p>(Glad you&#8217;re finding the comment editing feature helpful. I think I&#8217;ve about reached the point of plugin saturation &#8211; if i add any more, I&#8217;ll have to take some out to avoid slowing the site down too much. But that&#8217;s one I&#8217;ll definitely leave alone.)</p>
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		By: David Harmon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Young black snakes are also patterned a bit like milk snakes.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm...  I&#039;d send you a photo if I had your E-mail address... (one of these days I will get onto Flickr, really!)

Which is more likely to go swimming?  We first spotted the smaller of the snakes actually swimming in the river.  (I think it was the same -- I found them basking, by heading in the same direction the swimmer had left by.)  The swimming posture was interesting -- mouth wide open at water level, with only the top jaw above water.  In retrospect, I think he was hunting water striders, which were plentiful.

Also, the two snakes were different sizes - the smaller one was darker, with less red in his markings.

PS: Thank you again for setting up the comment-editing plugin!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Young black snakes are also patterned a bit like milk snakes.</i></p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;  I&#8217;d send you a photo if I had your E-mail address&#8230; (one of these days I will get onto Flickr, really!)</p>
<p>Which is more likely to go swimming?  We first spotted the smaller of the snakes actually swimming in the river.  (I think it was the same &#8212; I found them basking, by heading in the same direction the swimmer had left by.)  The swimming posture was interesting &#8212; mouth wide open at water level, with only the top jaw above water.  In retrospect, I think he was hunting water striders, which were plentiful.</p>
<p>Also, the two snakes were different sizes &#8211; the smaller one was darker, with less red in his markings.</p>
<p>PS: Thank you again for setting up the comment-editing plugin!</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[beth - No matter how I squint at that photo, I can&#039;t see what you saw! But I do like the photo and would&#039;ve featured it at Visual Soma if I hadn&#039;t planned on using it here. They&#039;re attractive caterpillars, and the blue is produced by structural means, by absorbing other wavelengths of light, rather than through pigment, according to Dethier.

bev - Thanks. Yeah, I imagine it is pretty widespread. 

Dethier mentions &quot;five different species of coarse, hairy tachnid flies&quot; as caterpillar parasites, in addition to several species of wasps. Direct predators include ants and shield bugs.

David - Wow, you&#039;re really ahead of us! Of course, we did get that hot spell at the end of April, which may have sped things up a little too much considering how the weather turned after that.

Young black snakes are also patterend a bit like milk snakes.

maria - Glad you enjoyed it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beth &#8211; No matter how I squint at that photo, I can&#8217;t see what you saw! But I do like the photo and would&#8217;ve featured it at Visual Soma if I hadn&#8217;t planned on using it here. They&#8217;re attractive caterpillars, and the blue is produced by structural means, by absorbing other wavelengths of light, rather than through pigment, according to Dethier.</p>
<p>bev &#8211; Thanks. Yeah, I imagine it is pretty widespread. </p>
<p>Dethier mentions &#8220;five different species of coarse, hairy tachnid flies&#8221; as caterpillar parasites, in addition to several species of wasps. Direct predators include ants and shield bugs.</p>
<p>David &#8211; Wow, you&#8217;re really ahead of us! Of course, we did get that hot spell at the end of April, which may have sped things up a little too much considering how the weather turned after that.</p>
<p>Young black snakes are also patterend a bit like milk snakes.</p>
<p>maria &#8211; Glad you enjoyed it.</p>
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		By: Crafty Green Poet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent post, I love finding out that kind of detail about all the interconnections in a local ecology... It will be fascinating to see what happens in the future]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, I love finding out that kind of detail about all the interconnections in a local ecology&#8230; It will be fascinating to see what happens in the future</p>
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