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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12430&quot;&gt;Barbara&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Barbara - Glad you found this helpful. I too rarely save drafts since weaning myself off pen and paper some ten years ago, but for this poem I did, for some reason -- and I&#039;m glad, because it would&#039;ve been hard to write the post otherwise! I just added a number to the end of file name each time I saved. But since I&#039;m using WordPress, older edits of a page are automatically saved, as well, and I can revert to an earlier version at any time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12430">Barbara</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Barbara &#8211; Glad you found this helpful. I too rarely save drafts since weaning myself off pen and paper some ten years ago, but for this poem I did, for some reason &#8212; and I&#8217;m glad, because it would&#8217;ve been hard to write the post otherwise! I just added a number to the end of file name each time I saved. But since I&#8217;m using WordPress, older edits of a page are automatically saved, as well, and I can revert to an earlier version at any time.</p>
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		By: Barbara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for including this. It&#039;s helpful to see something of your process, even after the fact.  I&#039;m constantly learning things from the poets who post at rwp.  My training is forty years rusty.
I usually revise, when I do, at the computer, and don&#039;t hang onto the drafts and am wondering how to change that. When a version is gone, so is its potential as a fresh beginning. (you wonder how plant breeders can throw away all but one or two lines from every generation&#039;s sports and oddities)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for including this. It&#8217;s helpful to see something of your process, even after the fact.  I&#8217;m constantly learning things from the poets who post at rwp.  My training is forty years rusty.<br />
I usually revise, when I do, at the computer, and don&#8217;t hang onto the drafts and am wondering how to change that. When a version is gone, so is its potential as a fresh beginning. (you wonder how plant breeders can throw away all but one or two lines from every generation&#8217;s sports and oddities)</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12428&quot;&gt;zoe&lt;/a&gt;.

Hearing that something I&#039;ve written has made someone take a renewed interest in poetry is just about the most gratifying feedback I can get (though I&#039;m glad you like the poems, too). Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12428">zoe</a>.</p>
<p>Hearing that something I&#8217;ve written has made someone take a renewed interest in poetry is just about the most gratifying feedback I can get (though I&#8217;m glad you like the poems, too). Thank you.</p>
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		By: zoe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[wow! what a thought process that went into this writing--and each step was, in my opinion, an excellent poem. although i like very much your &quot;final&quot; version, the second-to-last one has a lot of impact, it&#039;s an excellent poem. reading this made me appreciate poetry again...it&#039;s been a while..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! what a thought process that went into this writing&#8211;and each step was, in my opinion, an excellent poem. although i like very much your &#8220;final&#8221; version, the second-to-last one has a lot of impact, it&#8217;s an excellent poem. reading this made me appreciate poetry again&#8230;it&#8217;s been a while..</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12426&quot;&gt;Dana&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh jesus. How about &quot;Taters,&quot; then?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12426">Dana</a>.</p>
<p>Oh jesus. How about &#8220;Taters,&#8221; then?</p>
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		By: Dana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12410&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;.

Tate-ics, to be precise. Since the suffix in alcoholic is &quot;-ic,&quot; not &quot;-aholic.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12410">Dave</a>.</p>
<p>Tate-ics, to be precise. Since the suffix in alcoholic is &#8220;-ic,&#8221; not &#8220;-aholic.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12424&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Peter. You&#039;re right -- I don&#039;t have too hard a time jettisoning good lines that don&#039;t fit a poem. And usually I don&#039;t save them in any way, either. I just figure there&#039;s more where that came from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12424">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Peter. You&#8217;re right &#8212; I don&#8217;t have too hard a time jettisoning good lines that don&#8217;t fit a poem. And usually I don&#8217;t save them in any way, either. I just figure there&#8217;s more where that came from.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12423&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;.

I love your inner debate, found in your next-to-last paragraph, about first drafts and revisions.  I go through the same questions about my writing. 

I like the way the debate plays out in your approach to revising &quot;Cocktail Dress.&quot;  Anyone who finds reason to give up fine lines like this:

&lt;i&gt;I’ve seen much too much
of that too little.&lt;/i&gt;

is serious about revision, I say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12423">Dave</a>.</p>
<p>I love your inner debate, found in your next-to-last paragraph, about first drafts and revisions.  I go through the same questions about my writing. </p>
<p>I like the way the debate plays out in your approach to revising &#8220;Cocktail Dress.&#8221;  Anyone who finds reason to give up fine lines like this:</p>
<p><i>I’ve seen much too much<br />
of that too little.</i></p>
<p>is serious about revision, I say.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12421&quot;&gt;laurie&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Laurie - Thanks for your kind words. Revision is kind of fun, I guess. I think I revise a lot in my head, which might be why writing first drafts is generally so intense for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12421">laurie</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Laurie &#8211; Thanks for your kind words. Revision is kind of fun, I guess. I think I revise a lot in my head, which might be why writing first drafts is generally so intense for me.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12420&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Metacognitive&quot; is a great word, Peter, and thanks for the mention of that book -- I hadn&#039;t heard of it.

Ordinarily, my approach with posting a revision is to overwrite the original post with it, but that does short-change readers -- especially those who&#039;ve already left comments responding to an earlier draft. Also, the practice is somewhat controversial among bloggers, many of whom feel that any change in a published post should be restricted to a duly labled update. It would be great of blog posts were like wiki pages, with a &quot;history&quot; tab linking to earlier versions, and since WordPress already saves multiple versions of each post, they&#039;re already in the database and could probably be summoned up with some fancy code and theme hacks. It would probably slow down site load times considerably, though -- you&#039;d have to use a caching plugin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2009/11/cocktail-dress-anatomy-of-a-revision/#comment-12420">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Metacognitive&#8221; is a great word, Peter, and thanks for the mention of that book &#8212; I hadn&#8217;t heard of it.</p>
<p>Ordinarily, my approach with posting a revision is to overwrite the original post with it, but that does short-change readers &#8212; especially those who&#8217;ve already left comments responding to an earlier draft. Also, the practice is somewhat controversial among bloggers, many of whom feel that any change in a published post should be restricted to a duly labled update. It would be great of blog posts were like wiki pages, with a &#8220;history&#8221; tab linking to earlier versions, and since WordPress already saves multiple versions of each post, they&#8217;re already in the database and could probably be summoned up with some fancy code and theme hacks. It would probably slow down site load times considerably, though &#8212; you&#8217;d have to use a caching plugin.</p>
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