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		By: Self-publishing poetry on the web: risks, benefits and best practices		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] a license, specifically one that requires attribution and prohibits modification [or better yet, one that allows it --Dave], finding a balance between protecting your work and broadening your audience, etc. I [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a license, specifically one that requires attribution and prohibits modification [or better yet, one that allows it &#8211;Dave], finding a balance between protecting your work and broadening your audience, etc. I [&#8230;] </p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15507&quot;&gt;shoreacres&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad you found my thoughts useful. Of course, with poetry it&#039;s an easier decision since we&#039;re not really giving up any chance to make real money by posting it online. The kind of well-rounded and insightful essays you publish at your blog might indeed make quite a lot of money if you submitted them to magazines. One of my  brothers makes thousands of dollars a year writing pieces for a political magazine; I told him he&#039;d be a fool to blog! &#039;Cause he needs the money, and blog advertising revenue wouldn&#039;t come close. So online self-publishing is not a one-size-fits-all solution by any matter, though I do tend to recommend it to poets -- especially since there are so few general-interest magazines and newspapers that publsih poetry anymore. We have a far better chance of reaching readers this way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15507">shoreacres</a>.</p>
<p>Glad you found my thoughts useful. Of course, with poetry it&#8217;s an easier decision since we&#8217;re not really giving up any chance to make real money by posting it online. The kind of well-rounded and insightful essays you publish at your blog might indeed make quite a lot of money if you submitted them to magazines. One of my  brothers makes thousands of dollars a year writing pieces for a political magazine; I told him he&#8217;d be a fool to blog! &#8216;Cause he needs the money, and blog advertising revenue wouldn&#8217;t come close. So online self-publishing is not a one-size-fits-all solution by any matter, though I do tend to recommend it to poets &#8212; especially since there are so few general-interest magazines and newspapers that publsih poetry anymore. We have a far better chance of reaching readers this way.</p>
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		By: shoreacres		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 03:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came back to look again at your remark about deciding to share your work freely on your blog rather than trying for first publication elsewhere.

You&#039;re the first person I&#039;ve bumped up against who&#039;s made such a statement, although there surely are others I&#039;ve simply not found.
It feels like an affirmation of my own instincts in this matter of publication. Even though it&#039;s a nearly reflexive response to anyone who can string a few words together, I&#039;m beginning to hear the &quot;you should write a book/get published/stop giving your stuff away&quot; mantra more often.

I may be nuts, but I&#039;d much rather spend my time researching and writing, and developing relationships with my readers, than devote myself to &quot;getting published&quot;. I&#039;ve had two poems anthologized and published a handful of magazine articles, and my feeling about it all was, &quot;Well, ok. Been there, done that. Now - back to work.&quot;

Anyway - I didn&#039;t mean to run on so, but this whole business of it&#039;s-not-really-writing-unless-you-get-paid drives me crazy. More thinking to be done on the subject, for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came back to look again at your remark about deciding to share your work freely on your blog rather than trying for first publication elsewhere.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the first person I&#8217;ve bumped up against who&#8217;s made such a statement, although there surely are others I&#8217;ve simply not found.<br />
It feels like an affirmation of my own instincts in this matter of publication. Even though it&#8217;s a nearly reflexive response to anyone who can string a few words together, I&#8217;m beginning to hear the &#8220;you should write a book/get published/stop giving your stuff away&#8221; mantra more often.</p>
<p>I may be nuts, but I&#8217;d much rather spend my time researching and writing, and developing relationships with my readers, than devote myself to &#8220;getting published&#8221;. I&#8217;ve had two poems anthologized and published a handful of magazine articles, and my feeling about it all was, &#8220;Well, ok. Been there, done that. Now &#8211; back to work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; I didn&#8217;t mean to run on so, but this whole business of it&#8217;s-not-really-writing-unless-you-get-paid drives me crazy. More thinking to be done on the subject, for sure.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 02:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15503&quot;&gt;Dave Bonta&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve been researching it and found myself reading some of the debates regarding the NC portion of the license. Interesting stuff, and I like your take on the function of the SA piece. Hadn&#039;t thought about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15503">Dave Bonta</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been researching it and found myself reading some of the debates regarding the NC portion of the license. Interesting stuff, and I like your take on the function of the SA piece. Hadn&#8217;t thought about that.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15504&quot;&gt;Catherine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I think that&#039;s true about the influence of the Disney Corporation. As if I needed one more reason to hate them.

I don&#039;t think using a Creative Commons license and submitting to journals are mutually exclusive. Applying a CC license to your work in general does not prevent you from lifting its provisions for individual works -- and in any case, copyright reverts to you after publication in almost all magazines. Some of the online ones might even be amenable to posting a link to your chosen CC licence after the piece if you asked them to. 

It&#039;s book publication that gets a little tricky. Fortunately, Phoenicia Publishing was willing to include my CC licence in my chapbook, but I&#039;m not sure how many other literary presses would be so amenable. And it&#039;s a bigger deal for me since a book represents a sizable collection of work -- I&#039;d really want to make sure readers know they&#039;re free to reproduce and alter it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15504">Catherine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I think that&#8217;s true about the influence of the Disney Corporation. As if I needed one more reason to hate them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think using a Creative Commons license and submitting to journals are mutually exclusive. Applying a CC license to your work in general does not prevent you from lifting its provisions for individual works &#8212; and in any case, copyright reverts to you after publication in almost all magazines. Some of the online ones might even be amenable to posting a link to your chosen CC licence after the piece if you asked them to. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s book publication that gets a little tricky. Fortunately, Phoenicia Publishing was willing to include my CC licence in my chapbook, but I&#8217;m not sure how many other literary presses would be so amenable. And it&#8217;s a bigger deal for me since a book represents a sizable collection of work &#8212; I&#8217;d really want to make sure readers know they&#8217;re free to reproduce and alter it.</p>
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		By: Catherine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, the seventy years after death rule is ridiculous, but I understand it was made that long because of pressure from the folks at Walt Disney (it used to be 50)
I love your work, I do like to submit to journals from time to time though, so I&#039;m not quite ready to go Creative Commons at this point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the seventy years after death rule is ridiculous, but I understand it was made that long because of pressure from the folks at Walt Disney (it used to be 50)<br />
I love your work, I do like to submit to journals from time to time though, so I&#8217;m not quite ready to go Creative Commons at this point.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15502&quot;&gt;James&lt;/a&gt;.

Cool, glad I could give you a nudge. Obviously there are other copyleft licenses than the Creative Commons share alike -- the Wikipedia articles on open content, open source and free culture have plenty of links if you want to research it. A lot of people go for the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike licence, though the free culture purists criticize the noncommercial part. I am comfortable with applying an Attribution-Share Alike licence to my writing, since my poetry isn&#039;t very likely to make anyone a fortune, and if it does, god bless &#039;em. But I figure most people who are going to want to use my work in any real money-making way will want to include it in a standard copyrighted work, which means they&#039;d need my permission to lift the share-alike provision, for which I can demand a payoff or royalties. In practice, it&#039;s only my photos that have attracted that kind of interest, and to date I&#039;ve been easy, only asking for a copy of the book at most. (Got my mom a beautiful hardcover book on golden eagles that way.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15502">James</a>.</p>
<p>Cool, glad I could give you a nudge. Obviously there are other copyleft licenses than the Creative Commons share alike &#8212; the Wikipedia articles on open content, open source and free culture have plenty of links if you want to research it. A lot of people go for the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike licence, though the free culture purists criticize the noncommercial part. I am comfortable with applying an Attribution-Share Alike licence to my writing, since my poetry isn&#8217;t very likely to make anyone a fortune, and if it does, god bless &#8217;em. But I figure most people who are going to want to use my work in any real money-making way will want to include it in a standard copyrighted work, which means they&#8217;d need my permission to lift the share-alike provision, for which I can demand a payoff or royalties. In practice, it&#8217;s only my photos that have attracted that kind of interest, and to date I&#8217;ve been easy, only asking for a copy of the book at most. (Got my mom a beautiful hardcover book on golden eagles that way.)</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great pieces.

It&#039;s funny, I have a list of things I&#039;ve been meaning to do with my site and one of them is to change the rights to a cc share-alike type license. I share many of your concerns about copyright especially the fact that our copyright laws seem to be doing everything possible to ensure we become a civilization with no shared/public culture. That bugs me and I don&#039;t really want to be a part of it. Perhaps I&#039;ll move that change a little higher up on my to-do list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pieces.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, I have a list of things I&#8217;ve been meaning to do with my site and one of them is to change the rights to a cc share-alike type license. I share many of your concerns about copyright especially the fact that our copyright laws seem to be doing everything possible to ensure we become a civilization with no shared/public culture. That bugs me and I don&#8217;t really want to be a part of it. Perhaps I&#8217;ll move that change a little higher up on my to-do list.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15500&quot;&gt;Nancy Devine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment. Seven years into this blogging thing, I still haven&#039;t gotten over being amazed at it -- both the ease of the technology, and the richness fo the literary culture that&#039;s grown up as a consequence.  But my decision to give away my work on my blog rather than try for first publication elsewhere has less to do with generosity than impatience, I&#039;m afraid!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2010/11/two-more-morning-porch-poems-from-luisa-igloria-and-a-comment-on-free-culture/#comment-15500">Nancy Devine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. Seven years into this blogging thing, I still haven&#8217;t gotten over being amazed at it &#8212; both the ease of the technology, and the richness fo the literary culture that&#8217;s grown up as a consequence.  But my decision to give away my work on my blog rather than try for first publication elsewhere has less to do with generosity than impatience, I&#8217;m afraid!</p>
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		By: Nancy Devine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy Devine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[timely that you post about copyright and remixing. why? i was thinking about your poem for yesterday&#039;s post when i was driving (probably yesterday) and that the poem was simply there on the blog, available for the reading to anyone who visits.  it&#039;s not (that i know of) in a literary journal online or in print. as far as i know, it didn&#039;t have to pass through any gatekeeper (like an editor) in order for it be there for us to read. (not that i have anything against editors) and i thought wow...kind of amazing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timely that you post about copyright and remixing. why? i was thinking about your poem for yesterday&#8217;s post when i was driving (probably yesterday) and that the poem was simply there on the blog, available for the reading to anyone who visits.  it&#8217;s not (that i know of) in a literary journal online or in print. as far as i know, it didn&#8217;t have to pass through any gatekeeper (like an editor) in order for it be there for us to read. (not that i have anything against editors) and i thought wow&#8230;kind of amazing.</p>
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