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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 05:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16156&quot;&gt;marly youmans&lt;/a&gt;.

Meh.

Frost was at his best when writing about people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16156">marly youmans</a>.</p>
<p>Meh.</p>
<p>Frost was at his best when writing about people.</p>
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		By: marly youmans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16155&quot;&gt;Dave Bonta&lt;/a&gt;.

Very crabby. Cute crabby, even.

Of course, I am part of at least three generations of women who have had spider struggles! My daughter and I both had major spider-bite troubles, and my mother was bitten by a brown recluse. Luckily she was on allergy shots, and they say that helped, but her arm was black to the shoulder. Spiders are interesting, but I don&#039;t want to get too close.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16155">Dave Bonta</a>.</p>
<p>Very crabby. Cute crabby, even.</p>
<p>Of course, I am part of at least three generations of women who have had spider struggles! My daughter and I both had major spider-bite troubles, and my mother was bitten by a brown recluse. Luckily she was on allergy shots, and they say that helped, but her arm was black to the shoulder. Spiders are interesting, but I don&#8217;t want to get too close.</p>
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		By: marly youmans		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16156</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16154&quot;&gt;Dave Bonta&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s all a rug pulled out from your feet with &quot;if,&quot; though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16154">Dave Bonta</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all a rug pulled out from your feet with &#8220;if,&#8221; though.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16153&quot;&gt;marly youmans&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/8583446@N05/2781021455/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s Frost&#039;s flower&lt;/a&gt;! 

Frost&#039;s spider could well have been a crab spider. See the bottom two photos on this helpful page.

God, I love the web.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16153">marly youmans</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8583446@N05/2781021455/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s Frost&#8217;s flower</a>! </p>
<p>Frost&#8217;s spider could well have been a crab spider. See the bottom two photos on this helpful page.</p>
<p>God, I love the web.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16153&quot;&gt;marly youmans&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t remember that poem -- I&#039;ll go look it up right now. Thanks!
&lt;em&gt;
(Update: five minutes later)&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/robertfrost/692&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A lot of nice lines&lt;/a&gt;, but Frost&#039;s conclusion sucks. What anthropocentric bullshit. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16153">marly youmans</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember that poem &#8212; I&#8217;ll go look it up right now. Thanks!<br />
<em><br />
(Update: five minutes later)</em> <a href="http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/robertfrost/692" rel="nofollow">A lot of nice lines</a>, but Frost&#8217;s conclusion sucks. What anthropocentric bullshit. </p>
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		By: marly youmans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have some of these in my shade garden... 

I especially like the crab spider for some reason, maybe because it also takes one off in a new direction via the name. And the white on white is pleasing, maybe even a little Frostian, as &quot;Design&quot; popped into my head:  &quot;A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth, / And dead wings carried like a paper kite.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have some of these in my shade garden&#8230; </p>
<p>I especially like the crab spider for some reason, maybe because it also takes one off in a new direction via the name. And the white on white is pleasing, maybe even a little Frostian, as &#8220;Design&#8221; popped into my head:  &#8220;A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth, / And dead wings carried like a paper kite.&#8221;</p>
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		By: dale		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So many clever linguistic turns here: it&#039;s amazing that the tone remains brisk and sober, while you&#039;re turning cartwheels like &quot;long strong tongue&quot; and &quot;dutchman&#039;s breech.&quot; But it does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many clever linguistic turns here: it&#8217;s amazing that the tone remains brisk and sober, while you&#8217;re turning cartwheels like &#8220;long strong tongue&#8221; and &#8220;dutchman&#8217;s breech.&#8221; But it does.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16151</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16150&quot;&gt;David Harmon&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, they&#039;re like the trilliums in that regard (see my Purple Trillium poem earlier in the series). I&#039;m not sure the sort of ants that do that occupy a colony long enough to be displaced by plants they&#039;d inadvertendly planted. As I recall from a &lt;em&gt;Natural History&lt;/em&gt; magazine piece on the subject some years ago, the plants evolved this adaptation specifically to take advantage of colony-abandonment patterns.

Cool that you were able to visit CR. When I resume my Bestiary series, I should definitely consider leaf-cutter ants.]]></description>
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<p>Yeah, they&#8217;re like the trilliums in that regard (see my Purple Trillium poem earlier in the series). I&#8217;m not sure the sort of ants that do that occupy a colony long enough to be displaced by plants they&#8217;d inadvertendly planted. As I recall from a <em>Natural History</em> magazine piece on the subject some years ago, the plants evolved this adaptation specifically to take advantage of colony-abandonment patterns.</p>
<p>Cool that you were able to visit CR. When I resume my Bestiary series, I should definitely consider leaf-cutter ants.</p>
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		By: David Harmon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting...  WP says the seeds are spread by ants.  No word on what the ants think of plants growing from their middens.

I&#039;m back from Costa Rica, and have been busy catching up on things.  (New iPhone... having fun with apps!)  While in C.R., I saw a few lines of leafcutter ants... amusingly, a half hour after one tour guide had us leaning off the path to watch them going down a tree, we crossed another line of them... carrying their flags square across our own path!  Apparently, 30% of Cost Rica&#039;s leaves are harvested by those ants, all to be fed to their fungus gardens.  I imagine the fungi would handle alkaloids like those in the Dutchman&#039;s breeches....

Apropos of &quot;nothing&quot;, have you seen the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.futilityreview.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Futility Review&lt;/a&gt;.  The Zen of despair.... ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;  WP says the seeds are spread by ants.  No word on what the ants think of plants growing from their middens.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m back from Costa Rica, and have been busy catching up on things.  (New iPhone&#8230; having fun with apps!)  While in C.R., I saw a few lines of leafcutter ants&#8230; amusingly, a half hour after one tour guide had us leaning off the path to watch them going down a tree, we crossed another line of them&#8230; carrying their flags square across our own path!  Apparently, 30% of Cost Rica&#8217;s leaves are harvested by those ants, all to be fed to their fungus gardens.  I imagine the fungi would handle alkaloids like those in the Dutchman&#8217;s breeches&#8230;.</p>
<p>Apropos of &#8220;nothing&#8221;, have you seen the <a href="http://www.futilityreview.com/" rel="nofollow">Futility Review</a>.  The Zen of despair&#8230;. ;-)</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/01/dutchmans-breeches/#comment-16143&quot;&gt;Dick&lt;/a&gt;.

(As I wrote, I kept thinking about the old blues song &quot;Staggerlee&quot; and &quot;Jumper on the Line&quot; from R.L. Burnside!)]]></description>
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<p>(As I wrote, I kept thinking about the old blues song &#8220;Staggerlee&#8221; and &#8220;Jumper on the Line&#8221; from R.L. Burnside!)</p>
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