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		By: rr		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17495</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s great Albert! Thanks so much for letting me know. So if you leave a link in the comments here I can go straight over to see all your poetry. But which blog is the better of the two? which blog are you going to use to respond to Via Negativa and leave links to here? or do you have particular sorts of poem on one blog and a different category on the other? As a non-poet I find these arrangements fascinating.

(But maybe we should have this discussion at your blog since we&#039;re hijacking Dave&#039;s comments here - sorry Dave!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great Albert! Thanks so much for letting me know. So if you leave a link in the comments here I can go straight over to see all your poetry. But which blog is the better of the two? which blog are you going to use to respond to Via Negativa and leave links to here? or do you have particular sorts of poem on one blog and a different category on the other? As a non-poet I find these arrangements fascinating.</p>
<p>(But maybe we should have this discussion at your blog since we&#8217;re hijacking Dave&#8217;s comments here &#8211; sorry Dave!)</p>
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		By: Albert B. Casuga		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert B. Casuga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17493&quot;&gt;rr&lt;/a&gt;.

I do have a regularly maintained literary blog which includes my poems (including those I write in response to The Morning Porch and Via Negativa). You are welcome to leave your responses in its Comment link, or cue me to the link where I could follow your own response. It&#039;s at http://ambitsgambit.blogspot.com 
and
http://albertbcasuga.blogspot.com
or simply click on the Albert B. Casuga says tag (in blue) of these blogs and you&#039;ll get there.
Thanks for your interest and suggestion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17493">rr</a>.</p>
<p>I do have a regularly maintained literary blog which includes my poems (including those I write in response to The Morning Porch and Via Negativa). You are welcome to leave your responses in its Comment link, or cue me to the link where I could follow your own response. It&#8217;s at <a href="http://ambitsgambit.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ambitsgambit.blogspot.com</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://albertbcasuga.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://albertbcasuga.blogspot.com</a><br />
or simply click on the Albert B. Casuga says tag (in blue) of these blogs and you&#8217;ll get there.<br />
Thanks for your interest and suggestion.</p>
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		By: rr		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17493</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17490&quot;&gt;Dave Bonta&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve seen that Albert often responds with a comment that&#039;s a proper fully-formed poem (unlike mine which was more of a reverential brain-fart).

Albert, I wonder whether it would be worth setting up a poetry blog to feature your work and then leaving a comment linking to a particular work on that blog if something moves you to composition. That way your work wouldn&#039;t exist in the shade of a comments box but would have a proper home all of its own!

And if you left a link here people would be able to follow it and see not only the specific poetic response but also its place in your oeuvre!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17490">Dave Bonta</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen that Albert often responds with a comment that&#8217;s a proper fully-formed poem (unlike mine which was more of a reverential brain-fart).</p>
<p>Albert, I wonder whether it would be worth setting up a poetry blog to feature your work and then leaving a comment linking to a particular work on that blog if something moves you to composition. That way your work wouldn&#8217;t exist in the shade of a comments box but would have a proper home all of its own!</p>
<p>And if you left a link here people would be able to follow it and see not only the specific poetic response but also its place in your oeuvre!</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17492</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17486&quot;&gt;Pica&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, guys.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17486">Pica</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, guys.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17491</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bonta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17488&quot;&gt;marly youmans&lt;/a&gt;.

Quite so. I was also trying to imitate the jagged lines and rhythm in the four translations I found.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17488">marly youmans</a>.</p>
<p>Quite so. I was also trying to imitate the jagged lines and rhythm in the four translations I found.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17490</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17489&quot;&gt;rr&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I read that obit prior to writing my homage---quite a life. Thanks for the poetic comment. You are giving Albert a run for his money!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17489">rr</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I read that obit prior to writing my homage&#8212;quite a life. Thanks for the poetic comment. You are giving Albert a run for his money!</p>
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		By: rr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Three times exiled, forced to flee - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edwardfox.f2s.com/haidari.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Telegraph obit&lt;/a&gt; - what does that do to a psyche? Today the rain falls straight and hard from the low sky. His bucket must be brimming, shedding a saltless stream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three times exiled, forced to flee &#8211; <a href="http://www.edwardfox.f2s.com/haidari.html" rel="nofollow">Telegraph obit</a> &#8211; what does that do to a psyche? Today the rain falls straight and hard from the low sky. His bucket must be brimming, shedding a saltless stream.</p>
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		By: marly youmans		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17488</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poked around--there&#039;s not a lot about him on the web, is there? Found some translations, not many.  Both these poems end with dreams, like his last poem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poked around&#8211;there&#8217;s not a lot about him on the web, is there? Found some translations, not many.  Both these poems end with dreams, like his last poem.</p>
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		By: Albert B. Casuga		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17487</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Listen, if we hate poets here, it’s only because/ they brandish empty wash tubs instead of roses/ &#038; remind us we’re all in exile from our dreams. 

WE HATE POETS HERE

Love sans irony. It sticks on the craw sometimes
when you least expect the nuance of sincerity.

Have we learned then to obfuscate what we seek
to reveal like the primrose creating claw-like shadows?

We do live in a bleary quonset that is inhospitable
to the clear and transparent, we create our shadows.

There are Babel towers in every ramshackle cottage,
the dumb and the weary are with us to the bitter end.

When this masquerade is over, when the periphrastic
shackles of language are all shorn off our tongues,

we doff our hoods, tear off our masks, and speak 
of the feelings we cloak with opaque figures, symbols

of bondage we promised to overcome, speak with the rare
and liquid tongues of angels who call washtubs basins

and flowers simply flowers for the living not the dead,
and like the honchos at the Bronx call a spade a shovel.

Perhaps, then, they would not remind us of how long
we really have languished in our exile from our dreams.

---Albert B. Casuga
06-15-11]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, if we hate poets here, it’s only because/ they brandish empty wash tubs instead of roses/ &amp; remind us we’re all in exile from our dreams. </p>
<p>WE HATE POETS HERE</p>
<p>Love sans irony. It sticks on the craw sometimes<br />
when you least expect the nuance of sincerity.</p>
<p>Have we learned then to obfuscate what we seek<br />
to reveal like the primrose creating claw-like shadows?</p>
<p>We do live in a bleary quonset that is inhospitable<br />
to the clear and transparent, we create our shadows.</p>
<p>There are Babel towers in every ramshackle cottage,<br />
the dumb and the weary are with us to the bitter end.</p>
<p>When this masquerade is over, when the periphrastic<br />
shackles of language are all shorn off our tongues,</p>
<p>we doff our hoods, tear off our masks, and speak<br />
of the feelings we cloak with opaque figures, symbols</p>
<p>of bondage we promised to overcome, speak with the rare<br />
and liquid tongues of angels who call washtubs basins</p>
<p>and flowers simply flowers for the living not the dead,<br />
and like the honchos at the Bronx call a spade a shovel.</p>
<p>Perhaps, then, they would not remind us of how long<br />
we really have languished in our exile from our dreams.</p>
<p>&#8212;Albert B. Casuga<br />
06-15-11</p>
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		By: Pica		</title>
		<link>https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17486</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17485&quot;&gt;Dale Favier&lt;/a&gt;.

I love it too, Dave. Paraplegic angels and all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2011/06/passage-to-exile/#comment-17485">Dale Favier</a>.</p>
<p>I love it too, Dave. Paraplegic angels and all.</p>
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