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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2013/05/hope-2/#comment-40504&quot;&gt;Marja-Leena Rathje&lt;/a&gt;.

I should add that the &lt;em&gt;Kalevala&lt;/em&gt; is on my short list of epics to re-read; Rachel and I just re-read &lt;em&gt;Beowulf&lt;/em&gt; and enjoyed it very much indeed. I don&#039;t remember it, but apparently there&#039;s a whole section about a bear hunt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2013/05/hope-2/#comment-40504">Marja-Leena Rathje</a>.</p>
<p>I should add that the <em>Kalevala</em> is on my short list of epics to re-read; Rachel and I just re-read <em>Beowulf</em> and enjoyed it very much indeed. I don&#8217;t remember it, but apparently there&#8217;s a whole section about a bear hunt.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2013/05/hope-2/#comment-40504&quot;&gt;Marja-Leena Rathje&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds interesting. As you&#039;ll see, I referenced the Jungian &quot;Earth Mother&quot; archetype in the last section, despite my distaste for Jung. He himself apparently talked about dreams of bears in relation to it. Plus, I figured that, regardless of their scientific soundness or lack thereof, Jung&#039;s ideas have now thoroughly embedded themselves in our culture, thus becoming authentic myths about myths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2013/05/hope-2/#comment-40504">Marja-Leena Rathje</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds interesting. As you&#8217;ll see, I referenced the Jungian &#8220;Earth Mother&#8221; archetype in the last section, despite my distaste for Jung. He himself apparently talked about dreams of bears in relation to it. Plus, I figured that, regardless of their scientific soundness or lack thereof, Jung&#8217;s ideas have now thoroughly embedded themselves in our culture, thus becoming authentic myths about myths.</p>
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		By: Marja-Leena Rathje		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, as usual you have done your homework and know far more than I do! Thanks for sharing this information. You might be interested in a book by Kaarina Kailo, a Finnish/Sami woman -  &quot;Wo(men) and Bears: The Gifts of Nature, Culture and Gender Revisited&quot;. I keep thinking I should get this for myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, as usual you have done your homework and know far more than I do! Thanks for sharing this information. You might be interested in a book by Kaarina Kailo, a Finnish/Sami woman &#8211;  &#8220;Wo(men) and Bears: The Gifts of Nature, Culture and Gender Revisited&#8221;. I keep thinking I should get this for myself.</p>
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		By: Dave Bonta		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.vianegativa.us/2013/05/hope-2/#comment-40502&quot;&gt;Marja-Leena Rathje&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks! Yes, indeed, and not just pagans — some of it has survived to modern times. That landmark paper I drew on for Part 6, &quot;Bear Ceremonialism in the Northern Hemisphere,&quot; has much about the Finns, and I included at least one Finnish hunters&#039; euphemism, &quot;honey paws.&quot; (I think a couple of the others are also pretty close to translations of Finnish terms, but were actually taken from different cultures.) The author&#039;s conclusion is that the bear cult is a circumpolar remnant of very ancient Paleolithic belief and ceremony. What&#039;s interesting too is that the ways in which this ancient belief system adapted to more recent, farming cultures had strong parallels on both sides of the Atlantic. I wrote about the straw bear midwinter festivals of northern Europe (which still survive), but the Lenape Indians of what is now Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York also had a renewal-of-the-world midwinter ceremony in which a bear hunt was essential to the continued fertility of crops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.vianegativa.us/2013/05/hope-2/#comment-40502">Marja-Leena Rathje</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks! Yes, indeed, and not just pagans — some of it has survived to modern times. That landmark paper I drew on for Part 6, &#8220;Bear Ceremonialism in the Northern Hemisphere,&#8221; has much about the Finns, and I included at least one Finnish hunters&#8217; euphemism, &#8220;honey paws.&#8221; (I think a couple of the others are also pretty close to translations of Finnish terms, but were actually taken from different cultures.) The author&#8217;s conclusion is that the bear cult is a circumpolar remnant of very ancient Paleolithic belief and ceremony. What&#8217;s interesting too is that the ways in which this ancient belief system adapted to more recent, farming cultures had strong parallels on both sides of the Atlantic. I wrote about the straw bear midwinter festivals of northern Europe (which still survive), but the Lenape Indians of what is now Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York also had a renewal-of-the-world midwinter ceremony in which a bear hunt was essential to the continued fertility of crops.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am really enjoying your &#039;bear series&#039;, Dave. I&#039;m reminded in part that the bear was sacred to Finnish pagans, and probably other northerners who were nature worshippers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really enjoying your &#8216;bear series&#8217;, Dave. I&#8217;m reminded in part that the bear was sacred to Finnish pagans, and probably other northerners who were nature worshippers.</p>
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