I enjoyed the interview. “One’s own voice as an organ of investigation.” The “duality of the poem on the page and poem as sound… They do not necessarily have to conflate.” I agree. Sometimes the music exceeds the page. Other times a poem falls flat when read aloud. Reciting the poem is the best way to figure it out. For this poet, speech is an essential part of the writing process. And I loved “The Forestry Student.” Thank you for posting this.